Better performance Martinez-Baker or Donaire-Narvaez??

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  1. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both guys that are being talked about as numbe 3 p4p. To me Martinez has deserved it the most.

    as far as performances i think Martinez got the edge on Donaire. Both were similar opponents in that they were unbeaten unknown fighters.

    I see Martinez having the edge in performances since he actually kept going until he got the KO. also Baker was bigger than Martinez which is what caused him problems whereas Donaire had all the advantages and underperformed.

    What you guys think??
     
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  2. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Martinez did what Donaire couldn't do. :deal
     
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  3. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Martinez's face was more bloodied and may have gotten hit much more but he was able to finish the job. Donaire just played along and did what he needed to do. I'd say Martinez, but only slightly. Donaire may have had the size, speed and power but he faced a tough undefeated veteran.
     
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  4. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    Donaire IMO.
     
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  5. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Sexy Sergio.... it's close though...
     
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  6. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just Donaire?? No explanation why??
     
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  7. Knickerbocker

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    hold up...SIMILAR OPPONENTS?

    Darren Barker fought the same way as Narvaez? **** NO

    Barker stood his ground and fired back shots while Narvaez ran away after jabbing once or twice.

    So no, they DID NOT fight similar opponents.

    Barker threw in combinations while Narvaez barely threw any punches
     
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  8. Emeritus

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    Martinez he had a broken nose and kept working till he found a solution and K.O Barker. Plus he was smaller which too caused some problems

    I felt Donaire had all the advantages, size, power speed and experience howvere he had no plan B, why didn't he attempt to walk Narvvaez down, where were the body shots to slow him down?

    I was really disappointed in Doniare....Im no longer convinced by him.
     
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  9. Knickerbocker

    Knickerbocker Active Member Full Member

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    After he destroys Nishioka or Arce will you be back on the bandwagon? :rofl
     
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  10. Post Box

    Post Box I'm back too, bitches Full Member

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    lol at calling him baker
     
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  11. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I said they were similar in which they were undefeated and unknown fighter.
    As far as styles though. There was things to even the opponents out. so yes they were similar. The only difference is Martinez kept pushing the pace even though he was putting himself at risk while Donaire was basically just waiting the fight out.

    The ribs were there for the taking for Donaire but he didnt want to.
     
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  12. MAG1965

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    Donaire was better. His opponent was better.
     
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  13. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Tough call. Sergio was going against a bigger opponent who wasn't 36 and he knocked him out, but there was one point in the fight were you thought that maybe Baker was going to come and pull of the upset and Sergio looked to be in a little trouble.

    Donaire was going against a smaller opponent where he had all the advantages and didn't get hit as much as Sergio. He didn't hurt him though other than the first part of the fight, but he looked to be in control for most of the fight. After 3 rounds Donaire was losing 2-1, but I still had no doubt that he was going to win.

    I say Donaire looked better slightly
     
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  14. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Donaire. Narvaez skill level is a notch above Barker clear as day. Even Roy was impressed at his defensive skill. He made Winkys shell looked amateurish.
     
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  15. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Barker turned up to fight, Barker was the bigger guy and Martinez took him apart, knocked him out.

    Narvaez, the skilled fighter who's far more advanced than Barker didn't turn up, he was the smaller guy and it went to a lackluster decision.

    Donaire had the more quality opponent, but Martinez scored the better win because he fought a live one, and finished how a top P4P-er should.
     
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