Better Performance: PBF (against castillo 1) or PACQUIAO (against morales 1)

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    so you rank boxers based on the number of wins? or fighters that are undefeated composed your top 10 ATG?
     
  2. No, you're twisting my words - in the subject of which performance was better - (obviously - you need to have some form of standard - like for like, a shitty performance against a debutant and winning a sd, or a guy pushing prime rjj to the limit and losing on a sd - there's got to be some consideration, however - like for like) in a like for like - similar level in relevant terms - the winner comes off better. duran gets more credit from me for beating leonard, than either hearns or hagler for pushing leonard to the limit.
     
  3. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    hey morales is an elite top 10 p4p when MP faced him...Castillo is not even a top 25 p4p then...where is the like for like there
     
  4. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Mayweather won his fight...Pac lost..if your talking about exciting fights than I'd say Pac-Morales was more exciting..If your talking about the greater performance than I'd say the Pretty Boy takes it...Floyd was hurt and found a way to win...Pac lost...

    I'd say Morales performance against Pac is just as good if not bettter than Floyds win over Castillo however...Comparing Morales in the 1st fight is better than comparing Pac!
     
  5. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i think Pac is not really outclassed, he was just desperate in that fight because of the cut
     
  6. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    both fought well imo. floyd seemed lost and still gave castillo a close fight in which castillo was robbed by the judges. floyd ,didn't seem like he was looking to win and seemed out of it. manny on the other hand, kept pressuring and looking for any opportunity for erik to make a mistake, even up to the final round. manny had a better losing performance. and yes, CASTILLO WAS ROBBED!!!
     
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  8. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    had the judges give round 10 to pac, the fight could have been a draw...

    PBF took control of the first six rounds with his feather fisted punches...i score it for mayweather 7-5
     
  9. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Void lost the first fight with Castillo, that's why a rematch was ordered. Shame of the criminal judges.
     
  10. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In that case, your reasoning is flawed too. because looking good depends on whom you are fighting. I sided with Floyd with this one because i thought Pac fought and looked good because he and EM complimented each others styles and it looked like a war. Wherein Floyd against Castillo were'nt as good. But where did Floyd really fought that was made to look like war?? So if i was to guage the fight, both didnt look as impressive as their usual self, but in this case, Floyd managed to win and Pac didnt. If Pac won it, my vote goes to him, simply because i like the way they fought.
     
  11. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    but castillo is not an elite fighter that time...nobody ranks him in the top 20 p4p...whereas morales is a legit top 10 p4p
     
  12. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i may agree with the underlined.

    we may just have to take opposite sides on the topic tho.
     
  13. SnakeFist7

    SnakeFist7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was elite, it just shows the critics don't know what the hell they are talking about sometimes. It shows how underrated he was.

    If anything, those fights, showed clearly how good Castillo was, even if Mayweather was hurt, so wasn't at his best. And afterwards what did Castillo do? Came back and beat other elites.
     
  14. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he maybe elite but not top 20 p4p..
     
  15. SnakeFist7

    SnakeFist7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd showed heart in that fight, where he was injured. Sure he didn't fight like his normal self, but he couldn't -- he did what he had to in order to win. He showed heart. He fought through his injury although you could clearly see how affected he was by it and had to dig deep for it against a monster in there on that night.