At MW who was the better puncher overall? Who punched harder, straighter, and also put together better combinations? :think
Jones likely hit harder in a literal sense, though P4P it's Robinson, who was also the much superior composite puncher.
MW ? have to think about it and go rewatch some tapes to make sure. P4P would be the better for Robinson, maybe...but at MW ? I'm not so sure. At MW...I would take Jones who was a natural MW with power. It's just hard to compare because of competition. But overall, if we skip MW, and do an overall evaluation, I would say Roy. Faster, more powerful, not sure about sharper since I would probably go with SRR...but for combination punching, Roy threw crazy combinations that I never saw Robinson throw...but SRR's combinations were deadly. rewatch tapes later so maybe I'll change my mind. But consider this with combination punching: THE SCHOLAR CONSIDERS: An Interview With Boxing Historian This content is protected In which the expert insists that the average modern boxer whips the tar out of the average old-timer, and provides reasoned arguments on other interesting questions. By Katherine Dunn [SIZE=-1]WHY ROY JONES, JR? KD -- Some of the questions put forward by the CBZ scholars come to mind at this point.They’ve sent them to me by e-mail and I’ve printed them out and have them here. May I run a few by you? HG -- Well, I’ll see what I can do, sure. KD -- A couple of years ago you published your own greatest pound-for-pound list in International Boxing digest. You had Roy Jones Jr. at the top of your list. You’ve received much criticism from historians and others—typically older folks—What about Jones’ abilities and accomplishments prompted you to make such a bold statement? And how do you compare greatness in boxers? And would you still put Jones up at the top? This content is protected - OK. My ranking of Jones in such a dramatic fashion, had to do not with his accomplishments but simply with his skills. He has more and greater skills than any fighter I’ve ever seen in my life. The way he can hook and go immediately to a straight punch, the way he can fire shots from all angles, his domination of every opponent he faces. I’ve never seen a comparable fighter in my life. I went out on a limb in making that pronouncement at that time. I don’t think I was that overboard. Now it’s true that Mr. Jones’ accomplishments in terms of being in great fights, in terms of being a super-star of his period do not begin to equal his skills. That’s the down side. Of course to make great fights it takes two to tango and Mr. Jones is so far above his competition that there are no great fights out there for him, certainly within his own weight classes. Now in terms of looking at the careers of certain fighters, certainly there are a number of men who outshone him in that respect. But I still maintain that Mr. Jones is the most skilfull, is the most over-powering man, pound-for-pound, in the history of boxing. I don’t think even Sugar Ray Robinson was as dominant over his opposition as Roy Jones has been. That takes nothing away from Sugar Ray. But I have never seen a phenomenon like Roy Jones. Of course Roy Jones knows it, too. He knows what he wants, what he doesn’t want. He’s a star. He won’t fight here. He will fight only here. He’s his own promoter, more or less. So he’s certainly not everyones’ ideal of what a fighter should be. But in terms of skills I think he’s the greatest.[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]"Fighters of today develop tremendous reflexes, they learn to punch from all angles. This is the new style. It’s replaced even the Muhammad Ali move-and-jab style. It’s not just Hamed, it’s the same basic style you see from Roy Jones, Jr. –shooting these punches from nowhere. The way Roy Jones can turn a straight jab into a hook is something I’ve never seen any fighter do. When I was watching boxing as a kid I used to imagine fighters who could do that, but I never saw anybody do it until I saw Roy Jones. I think that’s part of my fascination with the man. This is a new development. By the way, one fighter of the old days who really, to a large extent, fought like that, was Jimmy Wild, the greatest flyweight of all time. I mean traditionally regarded as such, a Welshman active from 1911 to 1923.[/SIZE]" http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/w42x-kd.htm ___________________________ There is more to that interview and he talks about SRR against more modern day fighters.
I think Jones hit harder!!!...but Robinson had alot more killer instinct. Robinson wanted to finish guys...Jones was content to let guys hang around. Like JG says, a 'stone cold killer'...
Robinson KOd Turpin, Graziano, Olson, Fullmer and stopped LaMotta though that one didnt have as much to do with power. Roy Jones KOd alot of guys coming up to contender status at 160. When he got to the championship Level he blew out Thomas Tate. He did move up rather quickly. Robinson put together the best combinations in the history of the sport. Roy could put them together as well but as his carer progressed he became more of a one or two shot at a time fighter. Strictly at 160 gotta go with Sugar Ray. As Roy moved up to `68 which was his best weight I think its pretty even in reality.
