Better Resume: Chris Byrd or Vitali Klitschko???

If anything, no modern Egyptian would consider himself black.
I guess they could be considered some kind of arabs.

The same arabs that captured blacks as slaves and considered them inferior.

Actually, it's interesting to learn that even blacks themself sold each other as slaves.

When the american ships arrived to the coast of Africa to pick up some slaves, they didn't have to capture them, just to buy them from their fellow black slavists.

 

I am a Byrd fan. He's so severely underrated, even by his american countryman. A pity, because he had the comlete package: speed, footwork, amazing defensive skills.
He only relatively lacked power, but not by himself, it's just that he was against people consistently bigger than him.
He fought anybody, and beat most of who he wasn't supposed to beat.
He shares the same top wins of Lennox Lewis; and he even beat them more convincingly! Watch Lewis fighting all timid against the feather fisted Holyfield, afraid to take a hook on the cheek;
watch Byrd clowning and toying with Holyfield.

Watch Lewis fight all reluctant against Tua, and looking like he drank an entire bottle of vodka in 1 second one of the few times Tua landed a punch.

Watch Byrd schooling and easiliy dominating Tua...

But on top of all, watch Lewis embarassingly DROPPING A BELT to avoid his now mandatory challenger, Chris Byrd :happy :blood

Seriously, Byrd is criminally underrated. He even puts a lot of interesting and funny commentaries on youtube. His insight are accurate and deep, and contrarily to too many retired boxers, he isn't a bitter delusional angry man.

Good for him, have fun.

 

But you still can't name Vitali's best 3 wins. Goodbye troll!:hi:

 

You mean to say that Vitali was winning on the judges scorecards in his German backyard? Wow, thanks for telling me! That's such a meaningful piece of information.

If you watch the fight with your own two eyes instead of letting biased German judges dictate your opinion to you, you'll see that Vitali was landing nothing flush on Byrd. In fact, the best punches were all landed by Chris Byrd, and this got more intense as the fight went on. If it had continued, Byrd would have stopped Vitali, because he was landing at will. Vitali looked like George Foreman against Ali or Jimmy Young.

Yes, Byrd beat an old Holyfield, but Vitali ducked old Holyfield. Which is better? And you forget to mention that Holyfield was still a top contender even long after the loss to Byrd. Holyfield outboxed WBA champion Valuev and got robbed, and he was 47 years old.

Char, Solis, Kevin Johnson, Arreola, Hoffmann are all bums and you know it, They were undefeated because they had been on a steady diet of tomato cans. Every time they fought a good opponent, they lost badly. You're ridiculous. Timo Hoffman actually gave Vitali all he could handle.

So yes, Vitali was dominant. Against cab drivers. All the best contenders went to Vlad, not Vitali.

 

Anyone who thinks Vitali quit against Byrd because of an injury has to explain why he never took the rematch which Byrd was begging for. Otherwise, you're fanboy trolls.

 

This bothers me as well :huh

I mean, often there are a lot of things going on, getting someone in the ring is always difficult, getting any rematch even more, there can be all sort of aspects making things difficult, but this one is fishy.

Byrd made Vitali look bad, really bad at times. I'm not so sure on who and how much was ahead on the scorecards.
Vitali may have been, but he was losing momentum and energies.
And even if it was a victory, it wasn't a clear one.

His brother Wladimir, for example, had a war with Peter, due also to unfortunate refereeing. So he faced him again. Byrd, he faced twice.
Thompson gave him some troubles, so he faced him again.

Why didn't Vitali proved his good rematching Byrd? Have there been fishy promotional wars? Was Scum King involved? :huh

 

Ancient Egyptian civilization has its roots in Mesopotamia, located in what today is south Iraq. With settlements along the Nile, bordering to Arabian Peninsula, the Egypts had access to the origins of todays civilisation. Egypt was also indigenous to Mediterranean, where the next step on the development ladder took place.

 

Yeah, King was involved. After losing to Wlad, Byrd signed with King in the hopes of earning a shot at Lewis. Byrd beat Harris and Tua to become the IBF #1 contender and spent two years waiting on the Lion to grow a pair and fight him. Lewis ultimately trashed his title, leaving Byrd to fight Holyfield for the IBF belt in his biggest payday.

After that Byrd got stuck with IBF mandatories and King stable guys like Golota, he than sued King and couldn't get any fights with anyone. By this point, Vitali was retired, and Wlad was the one woh was able to make the fight with Byrd.

A Vitali/Byrd rematch was never a serious option for either man.

 

Thanks for the insight.
Scum King may be, single-handedly, the worst thing ever happened to boxe. Other aspects, like flourishing of the titles, corrupted organizations, and whatnot may be bigger and worse, but as a single individual, Scum King is really the King of the trash. :-(

"Reptilian mother****er" (c) Mike Tyson

 

Vitali could have had his Byrd rematch that year but wanted no part of it.

Byrd has said in the past that he had no say in who he faced next even though he was the title holder.
He was forced straight into a fight with Wlad.

Kluas Khol was working with the WBO and Universum at the same time back then and had Byrd by the balz.

They took him to Germany , took the belt off him and let him go. Byrd complained his eyes were burning after the second round against Wlad. And Wlad still couldn't put him away over 12 rounds when Ike - half Wlads size easily put him away in 5 without any blinding substance on his mitts.

And Vitlai's injury is a load of nonsense . He was back in the ring 5 months later which means he was back in training only a few months after he claimed he had a career ending injury to excuse his disgraceful quit job against a blown up Middle weight.

 

No if you have read Into this book you would see that they identified themselves as being different than white and black IT IS YOU who want them to be black so you feel special. I bet you don't even know where this picture is from and that it was the Ancient Egyptians who classified themselves as the far right race. It is obvious you are out of your depth and are just pushing your racist agenda which you show time and time again on this forum.

 

Can I have some of the drugs you are on?

Byrd couldn't knock out Vitali Klitchko if he hit him with a hammer. In fact he couldn't knock out bent gear. I've no particular time for the K2 bros, but ffs Byrd KO'ing one of them.

That is about as likely to happen as a one legged man winning an ass kicking contest.

 

- The Holyfied won was not so impressive. Holy just got demolished by James Toney.

- The Tua is OK. But Tua does not rank higher than John Ruiz who was beat by Toney and Jones.

- The Vitali is good but it is a bit tainted with the injury.

 

I know you are a troll but lets get the facts straight at least.

-Holyfiled had just beat Rahman prior to Byrd. The Toney demolition came after Holyfield had shoulder surgery for an injury he sustained during the Byrd fight, you moron.

-John Ruiz..the guy that Lewis ducked? Yeah. What of him?

-Byrd caused the arm injury by making Vitali miss, same as Lewis caused the injury that put Vitali out. Vitali quit against Byrd, but wanted to go on against Lewis. Byrd beat a younger faster Vitali. :think

 

I listed Vitali's best 10 wins. I could only list about 6 for Byrd.