Better resume, Golovkin or Thurman

Just like you wanting to put cash on him against GGG?

 

Objectivity?

Objectivity would demand that there can be only ONE World Champion @ MW, Genius.

Cotto beat the Man who beat the Man who beat the Man who beat Bernard Hopkins - who was THE MAN @ 160. That makes Cotto THE MAN @ 160.

Exactly WHO did the Triple Duck ever beat?

 

Hopefully you won't be ignorantly dismissive this time, so I will try to explain.

There can only be one lineal/Ring champion, but also, in reality, there are 4 official championship belts. I'm aware what you think about the governing bodies and their belts, but it is what it is, and that's the reality.

There are 3 champions (IBF title vacant) in the MW division right now:

Gennady Golovkin - WBA Super champion
Miguel Cotto - WBC champion (also holds the Ring belt)
Andy Lee - WBO champion

There is also Danny Jacobs with his WBA Regular belt, which is the same belt that Keith Thurman has, and it is rated under Golovkin's Super belt.

Golovkin has beaten the following:

* Daniel Geale - rated #2 at the time, 2-time champion, former unified WBA/IBF champion (defeated Felix Sturm in Germany, defeated Sylvester also in Germany).
* Martin Murray - top contender (drew with Sturm in Germany, controversially lost a close fight against Sergio Martinez in Argentina).
* Matthew Macklin - top contender (lost close SD to Sturm in Germany)
* Curtis Stevens - rated top 10 the time
* Marco Antonio Rubio - rated top 10 at the time
* Grzegorz Proksa
* Kassim Ouma
* Nobuhiro Ishida

What also you have to consider while debating the resume (besides the usual "who has he beaten") are the statistics, which are:

* 13 title defenses
* All title fights won by stoppage
* Over 4 years long reign

All those things put together are what makes someone's "resume".

Also, Cotto is the current Ring champion, but you could argue that the lineage is broken in many ways.

1. Jermain Taylor vacating instead of fighting the official challenger Arthur Abraham in 2005.
2. Miguel Cotto winning the title on the 159lbs catchweight instead of the full weight of 160lbs.

There you go, I've explained to you everything there is to be explained. Also, the fact that you commonly refer to Golovkin as "Triple Duck" shows your bias against Golovkin, since there wouldn't be any need to a knowledgeable, objective individual to keep using derogatory phrases towards any boxer (especially if he's respectful), regardless of the potential like or dislike.

 

Stallion vs dumbass, round 2, fight.

 

And that's all there is to it.

No, there ISN'T.

There can only be ONE World Champion in a given division, Genuis. Cotto is THE Champion @ 160, everyone else is a CONTENDER. The alphabet organization's trinkets are MEANINGLESS. Belts do NOT make champions, Einstein. What is it about this simple FACT that you FAIL to comprehend?

 

They are about equal


Neither resume stands out at the time

 

Have you even read the whole post? Unfortunately you really are extremely ignorant towards anything that doesn't suit you or your agenda. You are taking your own opinions as facts and try to completely dismiss everything else. I'm sorry, but you are once again showing that you are incapable of having an objective debate.

If your every response is based on "all the titles are meaningless", "there can only be ONE champion" etc, with taking your own opinions as facts, (also I've took my time to try to explain it to you, yet you didn't even bother to use any intellect and just made a short ignorant response) it's simply no use to have any kind of a serious debate.

 

That's not opinion, Genius. It is a FACT that there can be only ONE champion in a given division. THIS IS A FACT.

Cotto is THE champion @ 160 to the exclusion of EVERYONE ELSE.

 

Thurman... he fought 4 former world champions..zaveck, quintana, diaz, guerrero...

GGG...2 former world champion i believe, ouma, geale.

 

None of those guys you named were ever world champions and most likely will never be.. Thurman has 4 world champions on his resume..zaveck, quintana(took pwills 0)diaz, guererro.. end thread....

 

Your claims raise the question whether you actually know what the fact is.

Cotto is the WBC/Ring champion, that is a fact.
Gennady Golovkin is the WBA Super World champion, that is also a fact.
There are 4 official recognized championship belts in each division, that is also a fact.
Cotto is the only true champion - that's an

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, not a fact.
There is only 1 champion in each division - once again an

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(or just a claim), because there 4 belts for a fact.
All 4 belts are meaningless - your

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, not a fact.

Also, you have completely ignored most of what I've posted above, while I've addressed all of your claims, which reveals your ignorance (or inability to answer?), lowering your credibility as a debater (if you have any, since all you do is blindly repeating the same things over and over again).

 

If quillon beats lee his resume beats Ggg's...

 

For his weight class, he is he the more talented, and more skilled guy.

 

It's difficult to hold his cv against him, you know he would take on better opponents if he wasn't so obviously ducked.

 

Herein lies the issue with lack of objectivity. You have bums like Rubio, and Stevens being argue'd about as top 10 guys.