Better resume/greater fighter: Floyd Mayweather or Barney Ross

after 10 pages of debate, between the recency bias and hipstering

the judges will now present their scorecards:


me: 98 to 92
myself: 97-93
i: 96-94

To the winner by unanimous decision...... the HIPSTERS!!

new WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO, WBF, IBU, EBU AND WHATEVERTHE**** keyboard warrior champions of the world!

 

There’s no way I’m going to sit here (while taking a dump) and read that wall of text word for the word.

Floyd washed the best fighter in boxing other than himself at age 38. That’s unheard of. Or does age not count for Floyd?

You probably can only name like four fighters who Ross fought, but you’re still calling him better than Floyd because Floyd has you all up in feelings for reasons that I don’t understand.

 

Yeah i didn't mean that. You can smell doza a mile away. There's not a chance it's him. I've seen this poster before but can't remember the alt.

 

You'll see that a lot, especially when it's 100% deserved. Some people are absolute annoyances.

 

Too kind DP but my secret is to only speak on what I do know.

I can’t speak for this thread atm since I haven’t read it nor been involved….but I am very familiar with the MO you have described.

I wrecked (one of his favoured but always ill applied terms) this guy via a number of posts the last time we exchanged.

 

In the days when Doza went by the moniker Dr Z (for Xenophobe? ) one of his most notable and oft repeated faux pas’ was referring to Luis Angel Firpo as “Frippo” -

The first time I read it, I thought wtf?, that must be one of the Marx Bros I somehow hadn’t heard of.

 

Pot meet kettle

 

You mean the time I exposed you as a pseudo intellectual and you had to go straight to insults just to feel better about yourself? Pepperidge farm remembers..........

 

Ahhhh i forgot Frippo!!!!! There was just so damn many!!!!!!!!! The sadist in me misses the times when he used to get hammered, which was basically daily by the likes of mcvey.

Frippo hahaha

 

I wasn’t speaking to you, was I now?

Be silent and keep rockin’ and dribbling in that little darkened corner of yours. Trolls like you are a dime a dozen.

You were trying to insult not just me but multiple other members FIRST on the thread in question. The common denominator, such was the complete lack of strength to any of your arguments.

You only exposed your low IQ and own penchant to insult in the first instant and obsessive desire to be a last word freak.

Underscored by actual facts and actual logic (attributes that you are completely devoid of) I gave you just some back in kind and you absolutely went to water.

You were absolutely wrecked Ralph and you just got wrecked again.

No further correspondence required and therefore, no further correspondence entered into.

 

I guess they’re good for some light sparring to keep you prepped/tuned for some real debate - some aren’t even good for that.

Yeah, there are some who treat this forum purely as an argument room. That’s all they come here for.

I love how the Pythons exemplified this concept in one of their famous skits (see below) -

However, even in their skit you had to at least pay for the privilege/indulgence - there are clowns on here expecting other members to accomodate their perversions for free.

Suffice to say, there comes a time when you have to hit the bell on these fools.

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Always the ones who yap the most who have the least to say

 

I've always loved that skit!!! My best friend and i used to have a mate, man he used to argue and contradict himself on the grog. The other mate ended up dedicating "Supertramp - Bloody Well Right" to him. If we skulled a beer for every time he said "no X, you're wrong!!!!!!!" we wouldn't be alive today.

 

Love it! Great song too!

 

I really don't care to get praise America anymore, it's been spelled out to you why it's clear the globalisation of boxing is not a modern thing. It probably is more global today than in yesteryears, but that a) isn't necessarily a good thing and b) isn't at its peak in terms of producing top fighters. The addition of Ukraine, Russia, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan is whatever. I'd get rid of all of them if meant restoring South American (Cuba, Panama, PR, Columbia, Argentina, etc) boxing to what it was.

Boxing history has completely ignored the amateurs, so I don't know what . Especially the ones who didn't turn pro. Everyone remembers Ray Robinson, nobody cares about Lazlo Papp.

Yeah, that's exactly what I did lmao. Amateurs achievements and status are irrelevant in comparison to pro boxing. That doesn't mean their amateur systems didn't exist lmao. A country with century old, successful amateur systems should be held to a higher standard than a country with zero successful amateur systems. This isn't some gotcha moment for you. All you did is undermine your own argument and say I'm moving goalposts when I called you out on it.

You've never watched a Marcel fight in your life, have you?

Inoue, Nakatani, Kenshiro, and Ioka are the only ones worth noting of that list. The rest are either average contenders or bull**** alphabet champs. Hardly compares to the sort of mid 60s & 70s: Guts Ishimatsu, Kuniaki Shibata, Shoji Oguma, Koichi Wajima, Masao Ohba, Jiro Watanabe, Royal Kobayashi, Susumu Hanagata, Hiroshi Kobayashi, Yoshiaki Numata, and Shozo Saijo. It's night and day; although I'd lessen my stance a little and say that Japan is absolutely a combat sports powerhouse, and so modern boxing has gotten a fair share from them. The point remains however, Japan is not a new boxing country.

You have to realise that the Philippines being in boxing for nearly 100 years in no way helps your point, right?

You're done, man.