Better resume/greater fighter: Floyd Mayweather or Barney Ross

I've always loved that skit!!! My best friend and i used to have a mate, man he used to argue and contradict himself on the grog. The other mate ended up dedicating "Supertramp - Bloody Well Right" to him. If we skulled a beer for every time he said "no X, you're wrong!!!!!!!" we wouldn't be alive today.

 

Love it! Great song too!

 

I really don't care to get praise America anymore, it's been spelled out to you why it's clear the globalisation of boxing is not a modern thing. It probably is more global today than in yesteryears, but that a) isn't necessarily a good thing and b) isn't at its peak in terms of producing top fighters. The addition of Ukraine, Russia, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan is whatever. I'd get rid of all of them if meant restoring South American (Cuba, Panama, PR, Columbia, Argentina, etc) boxing to what it was.

Boxing history has completely ignored the amateurs, so I don't know what . Especially the ones who didn't turn pro. Everyone remembers Ray Robinson, nobody cares about Lazlo Papp.

Yeah, that's exactly what I did lmao. Amateurs achievements and status are irrelevant in comparison to pro boxing. That doesn't mean their amateur systems didn't exist lmao. A country with century old, successful amateur systems should be held to a higher standard than a country with zero successful amateur systems. This isn't some gotcha moment for you. All you did is undermine your own argument and say I'm moving goalposts when I called you out on it.

You've never watched a Marcel fight in your life, have you?

Inoue, Nakatani, Kenshiro, and Ioka are the only ones worth noting of that list. The rest are either average contenders or bull**** alphabet champs. Hardly compares to the sort of mid 60s & 70s: Guts Ishimatsu, Kuniaki Shibata, Shoji Oguma, Koichi Wajima, Masao Ohba, Jiro Watanabe, Royal Kobayashi, Susumu Hanagata, Hiroshi Kobayashi, Yoshiaki Numata, and Shozo Saijo. It's night and day; although I'd lessen my stance a little and say that Japan is absolutely a combat sports powerhouse, and so modern boxing has gotten a fair share from them. The point remains however, Japan is not a new boxing country.

You have to realise that the Philippines being in boxing for nearly 100 years in no way helps your point, right?

You're done, man.

 

I dont like Monty Python but fair play,that was funny and appropriate for this thread