Better resume - Jack Sharkey or Max Schmeling

Schmeling has the best win and did better against H2h opponents. Sharkey’s resume is deeper.

Max clearly won the rematch to me, Sharkey retreats the entire second half of the bout and flicks out a feeble jab while max presses forward landing big right hands. Effective aggression. Competitive fight somewhat but I thought Schmeling won pretty clearly. 10-4 (missing a round)

 

I did. I slowed them down to quarter speed. You can see the ones that don't impact and do impact. The body punch clearly landed. Schmeling wasn't completely covering up his body. Then the uppercut and left hook up top DEFINITELY landed.

 

A win over the best version of Joe Louis to lose is enough to rank him alot higher then most including Sharkey.

 

Schmeling has to rate higher for his win over Louis. It’s an outstanding win and the arguably the best win in the division’s history. Louis retired at 60-1 before the comeback. Add to it - that it was a thorough win not some fluke punch.
Add in that Schmeling did better against common opponents with Sharkey and that they split their series 1-1. With Schmeling winning on a DQ early in a fight that while competitive he was trailing and then losing in a rematch that while competitive most felt he was winning (22-4 I believe was press row in his favor) I see no feasible way to place Sharkey above Max historically.
And this might be controversial but I saw an earlier post someone asked how would Max do against Sharkey’s competition - while this is pure opinion - I believe Max stops the version of Dempsey that Sharkey fought.

 

That's alright man. I think we should just agree to disagree about the 2nd Schmeling-Sharkey bout.

 

I think prime for prime , best for best Sharkey was better .. people forget that Sharkey's prime was in the 1920's endnote the 1930's when he fought Max .. Jack was also dominating their first fight before the foul .. Schmeling was more focused, consistent and obviously had that exceptional win over the young Louis ..

 

We can't seem to agree on what happened in even the first half. No point in debating the rest. Let's agree to disagree.

 

Common opponents

Stribling, Risko, Walker, Louis,

Sharkey - Risko 1-1 dec
Sharkey -Stribling 1-0 dec
Sharkey - Walker Draw
Sharkey - Louis 0-1 Ko. L

Schmeling - Risko 1-0 KO
Schmeling- Stribling 1-0 KO
Schmeling - Walker 1-0 KO
Schmeling - Louis 1-1 Ko w. Ko l.

Against common opponents Schmeling fared better. He was dominant, Sharkey was not. Louis is by far the best win on either man’s ledger.

H2H - was a wash. Schmeling won a fight on a DQ he was trailing. And he lost a dec most felt he had won.

I don’t see any rational reason to place Sharkey above Schmeling historically.
I’m a fan of both and stylistically I find Sharkey to be more eye catching and more athletic. But based on resume it’s Schmeling by a few notches.

Outside of common opponents Sharkey has a slightly deeper resume - Wills, Godfrey, Loughran, Carnera
Rates higher than
Uzcudon, Neusal and Hamas
But not by nearly enough and not where they fought them in their careers to offset the Louis win and Schmeling’s top spot.

 

Dude there's no point we won't ever agree lol

 

The point of argumentation is to come into agreement or find some common ground. Clearly we will not so why argue? It's a waste of time.