Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by emallini, Aug 13, 2019.
Holmes but it's very close
If Wlad had beaten Sanders I'd give it him
Holmes has the better resume and it should probably be better as there were some contenders he didn't fight while Wlad pretty much fought everyone just a weaker era.
If Wlad had Vitali, Ruiz, Valuev and Sanders (win) on his résumé I'd say it'd be head and shoulders above Holmes
Tho Holmes shut up shop post Witherspoon i'd still take him here. My big problem with Wlad is that his brother was the best or second best (counting Wlad) of a substantial part of his reign. Tho i understand them not fighting each other it counts heavily for me.
they both accomplished things the other did not, but I have to give it to Holmes
Holmes 48-0 until he got old, undefeated until age cought up with him!
Pretty much the problem comparing with Wlad, who got three big losses at young age.
Holmes still beat Spinks the 2nd time, even when old. That fight should not count as a loss.
Right! Forgot about that! He won the rematch in most eyes making it 49-1.
AND hat the guts to get into the ring with the most fearsome fellow since Liston!
Holmes had the better resume and the better career.
I rank Holmes at #4 ATG and I rank Wladimir at #11. Their longevity is similar but Holmes had fewer blemishes, beat better fighters, his lineage was more clear and he established himself as THE MAN whereas Wladimir had never fully unified and at no point during his reign was he the only man in the world to be called the Heavyweight Champion.
I'll go with that .If he could have faced , and probably beat those guys then he's beaten all the top men of his era . Then his resume s looking very good , comparable with Holmes .
Fought southpaws. Unified titles. Went into the lions den facing DKP fighters on a few occasions. Fought better competition on the way to the title. Fought all over the world in many different countries. Had rematches with some tough challengers.
Guy was his brother fgs!
Btw, older brother always wins.
Holmes … I don't get the Wlad thing with people .. He didn't fight his brother. It is completely different to be King of the mountain alone then to share it with someone else .. It's not even comparable.