Ray Leonard has a great resume and is a P4P ATG without a doubt. But comparing his resume to Sugar Ray Robinson?!?! I'll just say this: If Robinson held only one win over every fighter he defeated throughout his career, his resume would still trump Leonard's... and Robinson defeated many great fighters two, three... five times. Robinson by a country mile.
Add that to the fact he was a welterweight who did pretty damn good against middleweights and one has to wonder which is sillier, the title of the thread itself, or some of the responses.
BECAUSE HE HAD MORE FIGHTS POST-PRIME! In terms of general idiocy, that post is a dog turd with a flake sticking out of the side of it. All of your reasons for censuring of Robinson occurred after the 11th year of a professional career that peaked at 128-1-2. How interesting then that your p4p no 2 of all time :dead should in his 11th year as a professional be an earth shattering 34-1. Now who at that stage of their careers, with the accumulated wear and tear on their bodies, was in a more opportune position to struggle for supremacy with the younger, less traveled men of the division? Mr Leonard. But who actually did? The guy you castigate. Leonard gave us 4 more fights losing 2 of them, finishing 36-3-1. Hand me my sunglasses, I cannot see for his resplendence! To have Ray Leonard inside a top 10 p4p list is to vomit on history, whether one knows it or not.
Clearly, it's Ray Robinson. Leonard stacked about as much as you possibly could into fewer than 40 wins but SRR has an amazing number of quality wins. I mean, seriously, this isn't really close. For the record, I have SRR as the GOAT, with Leonard at #13.
Robinson, this is not close. Leonard has arguably the best individual win (Duran), but Robinson had a ****in great career.
just watch several old videos of Robinson on tube years ago ,I was curious to know what the fuss was about him being GOAT, It was all true..what a beast of a nature he was then! spectacularly dominating and explosive, he is a treasure to boxing ..I truly wished I was there to see him in his prime.
He wouldn't, said it MANY times that SRR is the REAL "Sugar"...And so has Shane...Oh, the young ESB ***s, lol
I'm lazy... Props to Wiki. Robinson was 85–0 as an amateur with 69 of those victories coming by way of knockout, 40 in the first round. He turned professional in 1940 at the age of 19 and by 1951 had a professional record of 128–1–2 with 84 knockouts. Robinson held the world welterweight title from 1946 to 1951, and won the world middleweight title in the latter year. He retired in 1952, only to come back two and a half years later and regain the middleweight title in 1955. He then became the first boxer in history to win a divisional world championship five times, a feat he accomplished by defeating Carmen Basilio in 1958 to regain the middleweight championship. Robinson was named "fighter of the year" twice: first for his performances in 1942, then nine years and over 90 fights later, for his efforts in 1951. He defeated other Hall of Fame fighters such as Jake LaMotta, Carmen Basilio, Gene Fullmer, Randy Turpin, Carl 'Bobo' Olson, Henry Armstrong, Rocky Graziano and Kid Gavilan. Robinson engaged in 200 pro bouts, and his professional career lasted nearly 26 years.