Better Resume: Lewis or Holyfield?

But he lost two of those three fights! :nut

 

I deliberately didn't post in this thread until you showed up

It still makes me laugh that the Holy fans brag that he beat guys that were closer to prime than the guys that Lewis beat, when in his first reign I believe he had the nerve to fight both Holmes and Foreman - and got took the distance by both of them, as I remember it Holmes gave him as much as he could handle too :rofl

I've never known a fighter with so many 'primes' as Holyfield. The fact is he fought Lewis when he was at the later stages of his career and yes he probably wasn't 100%, but he was comfortably beaten in both fights. Lewis's HW record pisses all over Holyfields, but I suspect Holy will be higher ranked P4P due to his cruiserweight exploits.

 

Bowe trilogy > Lewis' career when he lost TWICE?. Come on now.

 

Lewis never lost to a former Middleweight. Lewis never lost to a former Lightheavyweight. Just thought I'd throw that out there since people keep mentioning Lewis' loses to weaker opposition.

 

Lewis....

 

Which fights are you referring to?

 

BTW its a "record" not a "resume".

 

It's a resume according to the popular lexicon of the sport.

Don't be so pedantic. That's like saying "actually it's not punching power, it's punching force."
Yeah, technically we should measure punching in terms of force not power, but people know wheat we mean when we say "punching power" or "power-punches".

 

"Punching Power" isn't a fad term invented on internet forums though is it? People have been using the term "punching power" since the start of boxing, "resume" is a completely unnessarcery replacement for "record" which has also been in use since the early days of the sport.

"Resume" is up there with "exposed", "brutal KO", "cherrypicker" and all the other fashonable BS terms that spring up on here from time to time IMHO.

 

But they don't just spring up "on here". They are accepted terms within the sport. And all three of those have been around for a long looonng time.

 

You havn't noticed the increasing numbers of "cherrypickers" on here over the last year? The amount of "brutal KOs" that were getting predicted a couple of years back? The way a least one boxer gets "exposed" every weekend according to people on here?

I don't want to make too much out of but those words are overused here and resume is just not needed at all. "Resume" is a bit of a pet hate of mine, we're talking boxers records not filling in a job application.

But, hey ho, if it makes people feel a bit more sophisticated to use that word then who am I to argue?

;O)

 

Pisses all over Holy's?? Lets break it down then. Who fought and beat more fighters that actually meant anything in the division??? Lets take Lewis for example. During his prime, the better fighters he fought in their respective primes were Razor Ruddock ( I would argue this one), Tommy Morrison, Frank Bruno, Oliver Mcall, and Ray Mercer, all of which had pretty respectable careers with exception of Morrison and Ruddock, all held the title at some point or another. Again with exception to Morrison and Ruddock, these were by far his toughest fights. Mercer was a controversial decision, Mcall knocked him out and Bruno was fighting pretty much even with him. (Including Razor Ruddock), Shannon Briggs, David Tua, Mike Grant, Andrew Golota, Frans Botha, Henry Akinwande, Zeljko Mavrovic, and a few other guys I forgot to mention, he also faced during his prime. This is the group of fighters that defined his fighting prime. With exception to Briggs who barely won the WBO title on a last second knockout, not one of these fighters ever held the title or amounted to anything in their careers. Regardless if they had the ability to punch, headbutt, low blow, or box, they never did anything in the division.
Compare that to Holyfield who faced Qawi, Bowe, Mercer (beat him more convincing), Holmes, yes Holmes was as respectable or more son than all the contenders Lewis faced in my second list, Foreman, same thing, and Douglas, yes the Douglas that easily decisioned Oliver Mcall in his prime, Mike Dokes, and Pinklon Thomas. Pretty much all these guys had championhsip pedigree or went on to get it, including some of the ancient fighters he faced. Im stopping his prime at 94. If you went on to include Tyson and Moorer, thats pretty much the icing on the cake.
Lewis big name opponents, were Tyson and Holyfield both past their best, one could argue Holyfield was about as good as the Holmes that Holyfield faced when Lewis fought him, but the Tyson fight was an exhibition.
Fact is Lewis like the Klistchko brothers established a good part of his legacy against no name fighters who really never amounted to more than top ten contender status and hype from the HBO hype machine that promoted Lewis and was staying as far away from Don King and his fighters as possible.
Holyfield is the one who went to the back of the line, fought and beat Tyson for the WBA title, beat Moorer for the IBF title and then faced Lewis to unify the titles. Lewis originally won his title from a shot Tony Tucker, regained it from a guy who was not fit to fight, and unified against an old Evander Holyfield. How could that be more impressive than Holyfield career?

 

Lennox, and its not even close....just look at the depth and overall styles compared to holyfield

 

Yup. Proof yet again of how ridiculously overrated Lewis is on this site.:yep