Better resume Mayeather or De la Hoya

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  1. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Oscar de La Hoya and Mosley his 5th and 4h weight classes were on that level.

    Whitaker wasnt elite at this point. You obviously havent seen his fights with Hurtado or Rivera. The Rivera fights he probably got a gift in. Ike Quartey was never an elite fighter. Who has Ike Quartey beat? He lost to Felix Trinidad and Mosley.

    Every single one of Floyds last 6 opponents is coming off a devastating KO victory or a career defining win.

    How do you cherry pick winners? :rofl
     
  2. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    I just posted the lists for 1996 and 1997 dumbass. :rofl
     
  3. globenerd

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    DLH was not in his prime when Myweather fought him. Neither was Mosley.

    Judah, Mitchell, Marquez and Hatton were above their best weights.
    Baldomir, Gatti, Corley and Bruseles. Well. Seriously? All were very average.

    Mayweather's career signature wins were Castillo and Corrales, over 10 years ago. He's resume is one of the weakest in boxing history for somone with such talent.
     
  4. PBFred

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    :lol:
     
  5. NoCoolFool?

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    Well, I for one, disagree. WHO you fought matters. It has to be factored in. This is a sport that thrives when the participants strive for greatness. We don't want to give the Brian Nielson's any credit.
    And losing is not similar to getting fired from a job. It's striving to be the best and coming up short. No shame in that.

    But of course, win/losses do matter. We don't want to put Burton on the same level as De La Hoya.
    But when two boxers both have impressive records as Mayweather & De La Hoya, we should look at all their opponents.
    Would Mayweather be undefeated if he fought the same opponents as Hoya? Perhaps yes, perhaps no...but I'm not giving him credit for making the decision to be less active nor his decision not to fight certain opponents.
     
  6. MichiganWarrior

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    I still consider them as good a wins as Corrales and Castillo. Mosley was coming off of knocking out Antonio Margarito and Oscar was coming off of KO of Mayorga.

    Mayweather was above his best weight. Mayweather weighed less on the night then all these fighters save Marquez. Mayweather was the smaller man in the ring. Poor excuse considering Mayweather came up from 130. Seriously why would you even say that?




    Bruseles is a poor victory. The rest are decent to good victories. Demarcus Corley just gave Maidana trouble, and he's most likely shot. Took judah to an SD, and nearly KO'd Cotto. Solid opponent. Baldomir was the lineal welterweight champion. Gatti win is just as good as DLH's win over him.

    :lol: He's champion in 5 different weight classes. Has beaten more champions then Pacquiao. 18-0 in championship fights. Beaten atleast 5 hall of famers. 4 guys in the pound 4 pound top 10. And is resume is weak?

    You must be a *******.


    Please answer the question. How do you cherry pick 6 opponents coming off career defining wins or brutal KO victories? Please tell me.
     
  7. MichiganWarrior

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    So Gatti is a top 20 fighter of the decade then? Because he fought Oscar and Mayweather. Plus a bunch of other opponents in 4 weight classes. He got his ass kicked the majority of the time, but according to you its who you fight and not who you beat.



    Doesnt matter, because Oscar isnt undefeated fighting the opponents he fought. We arent talking about Mayweather being undefeated as giving him a leg up. We are talking about the fact that the opponents Mayweather beat are better then the opponents Oscar beat.

    Not to mention Floyd is nearly 35 and is about to take on a 24 year old champion. When has Oscar done that?
     
  8. Gander Tasco

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    Oscar. He should have wins over prime Trinidad and Mosley. + Chavez , Whitaker , and all of the great fighters he fought, never ducked anyone. Floyd's resume is pretty weak for a fighter of his caliber.
     
  9. globenerd

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    It's useless telling you anything. I just remembered you're the guy who's name is on urbandictionary.com
    In one sense, I guess that makes you a legend. But the sad truth is you're known in infamy, and not fame.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Michigan Warrior
     
  10. MichiganWarrior

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    Im not your mate. You dont know **** about baxin. :good


    Floyd weak resume. :rofl Is that why 4 of Pacquiaos last 7 opponents have been Floyds leftovers? :deal
     
  11. Atlanta

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    De La Hoya has lost all of his real big megafights. He lost to Hopkins, he lost to Trinidad, he lost to Mosley(x2), he lost to Mayweather, and he lost to Pacquiao.

    Mayweather while have less big Megafights has won all of them, he beat Corrales, he beat De La Hoya, he beat Castillo(x2), he beat Hatton, and he beat Mosley.
     
  12. rayrobinson

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    Put it this way both started at superfeather , would Mayweather have that zero against Oscars career.

    The answer is definately no.

    Would Oscar be unbeaten vs Mayweathers list? For me , yes.
     
  13. MichiganWarrior

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    Dont forget the great Ike Quartey. Who lost a close decision to Vernon Forrest once.
     
  14. bandido

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    It's close. In an ATG ranking, I'd probably put DLH just one place ahead of Floyd but could not be bothered if Floyd is ahead instead by one place.