Better Resume - Wlad or Mayweather?

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  1. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Two different careers

    One fought his whole career at one weight unifying and dominating

    One jumped weights for massive Ppv fights

    Besides 130 Wlad at hwt probably ranks all time higher than Floyd at the other weights Floyd's been at

    Wlad has a smaller range of opposition to choose cruiser and hwt and when he does fight a cruiser it's an issue

    I say Floyd due to big fights and variety of Skill

    No one is putting Wlad in a top 50 fighters ever
     
  2. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's no question whose had the better resume.

    I'm not going to use the lineal championships that Floyd has against Wlad because he's a Super Hevayweight and can't jump through different divisions.

    What I will compare however is their level of competition on their resume. FLoyd has wins against around 10 different HOF fighters, Wlad doesn't even have 1 great/HOF worthy fighter on his. It's not even remotely close when you compare these 2 men- FLoyd has had a MUCH longer reign of dominance (which is saying something,) and he's EASILY taken on the superior competition.

    I feel bad for both Klits because they're obviously in one of the worst HW era's in the history of the sport, but at least in Vitali's case he did step up and take on Lewis, albeit a corpse of his former self. I still wonder how Wladimir would do against some of the true ATG's in the history of the sport, it's impossible to gauge considering how weak his opposition has been his ENTIRE career.
     
  3. Super Hans

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    And Wlad's fought the best fighters available to him. It's not his fault Heavyweight is weak. Mayweather is more known for who he didn't or doesn't fight than who he does.
     
  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    It's not Wladimir's fault his division is weak, but he suffers greatly in the RESUME discussion because of it.

    Once again, you are judging by emotions and using what DIDN'T HAPPEN to make a case. That doesn't work when discussing resumes.

    Thank you for making my point.
     
  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    X 2

    Obvious answer should be obvious...
     
  6. Alien

    Alien Chin Scholar Full Member

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    PBF, not even up for debate.
     
  7. Farmboxer

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    Put Void into a ring with Vlad and Vlad will easily knock Void out cold, no contest. Want to find out who the best fighter is? Then get Void into a ring with Void. Vlad is the best fighter in the world living today, Void is an ant who would be stepped on and smashed..........................Void is refused to fight Pac, Martinez at 150, Golovkin at 154, Margarito, Paul Williams, anyone who can beat him. Void had to have his referee to keep Maidana away from him, break them before there was even a clinch. Void held all night, and ran. Void is boring as Hell and a cheat...................
     
  8. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyd's got the more impressive resume, Wlad's got the more complete resume.

    It's the difference between being able to weight jump and dominate and staying in a single class and dominating.
     
  9. GGGIsABum

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    Vlad The Impaler is not even close.

    What A level boxers has he ever faced and defeated, even old ones?
    At least his sister Vitali had the honor of getting in the ring and getting sliced up like a thankgiving turkey by Lewis.
    Vlad has fought no one special and this makes him nonspecial as well.
     
  10. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad, no doubts.

    -He has never ducked anyone

    -He has fought all stilistically kinds of opponents

    -He has fought better quality of opponents: not weight drained zombies, not dragging people from other weight classes, always taking on his mandatory opponents and never dropping any belt; also it's amusing how his best opponents were all younger than DuckJr.'s best ones, expecially considering he fights at heavyweights were ages are necessarily higher in average

    -He has fought in reach and weight disadvantage

    -He has fought way more fights, is more active

    -He holds one of the highest ko percentages and has stopped more than 50 fighters

    -He has fought in many more different places trough the world
     
  11. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This cant be serious question, Floyd beat, JMM, Hatton, Cotto, Corales Castillo to name a few, who did Wlad beat?
     
  12. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is a really stupid argument. You know the Klits come into the ring ALMOST ALWAYS 20-30 lbs heavier than their opposition right?

    And don't forget how weak their opposition is. Can you name ONE fighter on EITHER of their resumes that would be considered a "great" win? Name just one fighter either men has fought against where they ended up beating them and was consdered a marquis win on their resume?

    Wladimir is a HOF'er no doubt, but there's at least 4 or 5 guys in boxing currently that I can name off the top of my head that EASILY trumps what either Klit has done in their careers.

    Now I bolded the 2 parts of your post that I found to be the most ludicrous statements you made. SO Klit has fought the better opposition compared to FLoyd??? You know Wladimir's crowning achievement was beating Samuel Peter right? FLoyd has around 10 wins against HOF fighters and over 20 wins over former/current champions.

    You're out of your mind if you think either Klit will ever be remembered in a similar light to Floyd. Mayweather is a veritable ATG, the Klits are 2 HOF fighters whose resumes will always get dissected for how **** poor their opposition was.

    Klit doesn't have ONE element superior to FLoyd. His length of dominance, while impressive even in an extremely diluted version of the HW division, is still nowhere near FLoyd's length of dominance. YOu really have no argument to stand on when comparing these 2 fighters.
     
  13. jaymon112

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  14. CupidStunt

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    Both are awful cherrypickers
     
  15. STB

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    Who would the WW/LMW equivalent of Pianeta, Mormeck, Wach, and Leapai be?