Better self defense Judo or BJJ? I want to take Sambo but it is not offered anywhere near my location. I am going to be a beginner, and is on a budget (being a college student). So, the 30.00 $ a month for two sessions a week Judo don't look too bad. At the BJJ/ Muay Thai school, I get the impression it is way more expensive; considering professional fighters train there. I don't know the rates yet though. Here is the BJJ website below. The Judo class is taught at the local recreation center and doenst have a website. http://armorydaytona.com/home.htm
Does anyone here train in Martial Arts? The biggest weakness I notice in alot of BJJ fighters is weak take downs. In Sambo ( Judo is alot like it ) they take fighters down big time. Just watch Paulo Filho, who is supposedly the best fighter in the world in his class. He is a great ground fighter, but has no take downs. Sonnen was dominating in stand up. The only reason the fight went to the ground was because Sonnen is an idiot and took Fihlo down, then was submitted.
I would say in reality, on the street, it is Judo. BJJ is good, but you aren't going to get into too many submission matches on the floor during a brawl. However, being able to execute a brutal Judo throw would be very helpful. Not that JJ wouldn't work, it's just that in those sorts of fights, you normally don't go looking for a foot lock, kimura, or triangle choke. Where a wrestler, or a judo guy may grapple as well.. it is a more dominate form of taking your opponent to the ground and hurting him. Being in a guard wouldn't be that comfortable if the person can rip your balls off.
Pretty much sums it up. I honestly think the best combo would be Muay Tai, Wrestling (Judo isn't a bad substitute) and BJJ. The best to have as a base being wrestling.
Lol, I could do that (Muay Thai, Judo substitute and BJJ) if I didn't have to go to school and work all the time. I am going to look into the price for the BJJ/ Muay Thai class.
Nah bro, I didn't mean do it that way for you. I hear ya its expensive as ****. I train Kickboxing and I do an MMA class as well. **** is costly, but worth it you know.
Submissions are a much more lawyer friendly form of self-defence then striking or throwing. In real life situations I have had to restrain out-of control people, but never had to knock anybody out, or break limbs and such. Joint control techniques are very useful to know - even if you just need to keep a drunk party guest down. So I will vote for JJ - not necesseraly the Brasilian version of it though.
Understandable... but I find it easier to control someone in a street fight with Wrestling, or even Judo... than JJ. It trains you a lot more in taking control of your opponent... as in successful takedowns and control. JJ is very weak on the takedowns... and you don't want to be pulling guard on someone in order to restrain them.
Judo. In a brawl, the easiest place to take a fight is to a standing clinch. Once there, Judo is top notch, at least on par with any other form of combat.
I would agree with everyone and say judo. In the street it is typically wise to avoid dragging a fight down the hard pavement where all his buddies can run up and start stomping your ass. A good knowledge of boxing combined with some judo to learn the standing clinch and your options for throwing the guy out of your way and making an escape are a perfect mix for self defense.
The armory site smells a little of snake oil, but that could just be the web designer's fault. "unlimited knowledge" is a powerful thing. atsch http://www.bullshido.com/articles/finding-a-good-martial-arts-school-5.html
jiu jitsu all the way, ive seen it used in street fights soooo many times, and as far as take downs are concerned it depends where you train, we do takedowns and spar wrestling at my jiu jitsu school, we also have a few judo black and brown belts there so we get good cross training on gi days, cause lemme tell you on no gi days those judo guys got nothing...not only that the chokes and stuff are a good safe way to end a fight, if you break an arm the guy might still fight you, if you choke him out, you lay him down and walk away, all you gotta do is count to 10 and let go hes sleeping
BJJ is the best for self defense. It is the ultimate for ground fighting, which against an unskilled fighter, groundfighting isn't hard to achieve. It isn't just about submissions, but about positional dominance as well. You may not go for an arm bar, but you can sweep the guy who is on top of you with relative ease if he is untrained in ground fighting. You can get a mount and pound him if you want to, or just