better top 5: Ward or Calzaghe?

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  1. dubace

    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Got this idea from reading another one of bailey's discredit this fighter to boost his daddy's status threads. so who's top 5 wins are better? Who won more decisively against better fighters?

    Ward:
    Froch, Abraham, Bika, Kessler, Green

    Calzaghe:
    Hopkins, Kessler, Bika, Lacy, Eubank
    looks easy enough, but im sure some of you dumb asses will probably get it wrong.
     
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  2. BlackBrenny

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    Hopkins, WBA-WBC Champion undefeated Kessler, and IBF Champ Lacy is better than Abraham and Green, Cut-eyed Kessler, and Froch who lost to cut-eyed past prime Kessler.

    At least Eubank actually had some Super-middleweight championships in his day, Allan Green and Abraham? come on.
     
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  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Right now, I have to give the nod to Joe.

    Calzaghe's win over Hopkins is still a better win than anything on Ward's ledger.

    It's an unfair comparison, though, because Calzaghe's career is over and Ward's is in the early stages still.
     
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  4. Joe_MacKenzie

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    Manfredo wasn't one of Joe's top five or even top 10 wins.

    Eubank, Reid, Mitchell, Woodhall and Brewer were all better for certain.

    As was Omar Sheika at the time, let's not forget he was coming off a win over Glen Johnson.

    Others like McIntyre, faded Roy Jones and 2001 prime 30-0 Mario Veit were probably at least as good as Manfredo, who has never impressed me.
     
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  5. BlackBrenny

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    Many people like to forget the fact that Sheika just beat Glen Johnson before Calzaghe destroyed him
     
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  6. Imperial1

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    Based these names the edge goes to Ward ..Outside of Hopkins who Jermain Taylor also happen to beat who else is left ?
     
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  7. BlackBrenny

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W98M4ppO55A[/ame]
     
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  8. BlackBrenny

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    Calzaghe beat Bika more convincingly than Ward, Green and Abraham have never even won a super-middleweight title..
     
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  9. dubace

    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    good point. will fix. Reid and Sheika should've been rematched but weren't cuz calaghe's a *****. leaves Eubank left.
     
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  10. dubace

    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you guys are so dumb. did you even see the sheika fight? it was stopped from a cut that opened after a headbut. then calzaghe targeted it against the no defense sheika and got it stopped. sheika was still giving calzaghe a good fight. wasn't much dominating at all.
     
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  11. BlackBrenny

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    yeah right, two cuts along the eyebrows caused by a headbutt? sure, how many shots did Omar land? count em.
     
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  12. ripcity

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    I chose Ward.
    It's close, but Calzhghe's win over Hopkins was not defentive while all of Ward's win's were. Eubank was also past his best.
    Ward fought better guys at the time they fought and has more clear wins.
     
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  13. Rumsfeld

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    Calzaghe's win against Hopkins was close, but the Hopkins win is FAR BETTER than any of Ward's wins, IMHO.
     
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  14. Imperial1

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    And Andre beat Kesser more convincing than Joe and he was a 2 time super middle weight champ along with Froch . And your point ?
     
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  15. Icanteach2005

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    Abrahamn.. Great Middlewieght champ..
    Both Have Kessler Ward victory better..
    Both Have Bika.. Joe victory better
    Eubank Nice win for Joe..
    Lacy Good Win Owned by Joe
    Froch a former champ with a great Resume Great Win for Ward
    Hopkins is a Great Win for Joe

    I voted for Ward.. but its clear that Joe has the better Resume but 1 more victory by Ward say Bute, any of the LightHeavyweight champs then Joe's Resume is Trumped by Ward..
     
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