Better victories: Pac over Morales and Barrera or Floyd over Chico and Castillo

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  1. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac beat the lineal champ. Go on, enlighten me, how many fighters have become lineal champs by 19yrs old at those lower weights?
     
  2. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    **** me...i didnt know Joe Calzaghe was better than Ray Robinson...god how dare they compare that tomato can with his 19 losses to the great undefeated "0" losses Joe Calzaghe. "0" losses fools!!! :rofl
     
  3. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    So Morales was prime when he fought Zahir. He wasnt showing any sign of decline. And Zahir was just the far better fighter then Morales at 135.


    Riiiiiiight.

    Btw, Hatton did beat a top 5 WW. Collazo. Who was, you know, champ. And gave Berto a run for his money.
     
  4. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i call them about equal. pac lost to morales the first time and i felt floyd lost to castillo the first also. i dont feel barrera was at his prime against pac but i also think chico was somewhere else against floyd. pac has sinse looked more impressive and floyd lacks his own jmm which i think a cotto or mosely could have provided. if pac and floyd never fight then i think floyd has to beat the top welter and pick up a junior middle belt to pull ahead of pac in accomplishments. if floyd fights pac and beats him then i think cleaning out the welter division will be enough to pull him ahead of pac.
     
  5. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    discussing anything with these groupies never leads anywhere,the poll results are clear.
     
  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    what you don't understand is i'm not saying Corrales was at the end of his career. I'm saying that all the circumstances at that time point to the fact that on that night he was far, far, far from his peak. When he went on to be a champion later, he was no longer facing jail time, he was no longer coming in 2 lbs over the weight limit at the weigh in, and he was no longer just about to get a divorce. I never said he was past it. But on that night he was alot further from his peak on that night than Morales was against Pacquiao at only 29 years old.

    the Morales that fought Pac would have knocked out the Corrales that fought Floyd. Not the same class
     
  7. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    You might have a theoritical point if Floyd had struggled and won a close decision. It was a complete shut out with 5 knock downs. That leaves you to believe that even if Corrales wasnt going through the problems you theorize affected him on the night he still would have lost big. Pac on the other hand DID lose to Morales, and Morales was already beaten when Pac managed to beat him. Corrales was undefeated. KO streak a mile long. Favorite on the night. Your excuses dont factor in to what happened that night.
    :lol: Please. Morales lost a wide decision to C level Zahir Raheem. Knock knock hello Mcfly. Corrales TKO'd the guy that beat Raheem in his very next bout. Hell Rocky Juarez beat Raheem.

    Im not even sure a prime Morales beats Corrales, but I damn sure know the Morales that fought Pac gets TKO'd.
     
  8. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    corrales and castillo are just not in the same class as morales and barrera. both morales and barrera are easily in the top 10 greatest mexican boxers of all time and certified top 90 ATGs. corrales and castillo aren't even close to that.
     
  9. NALLEGE

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    There is no double standard lol. Morales was past it, and Chico was in his prime. MAB and Morales are considered greater than Castillo and the late Chico(R.I.P), they just weren't in their prime when Pac fought them. Floyd faced those guys in their absolute prime.
     
  10. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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  11. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Morales took a fight to win a titles at 135, and he was unmotivated? How would you know this???
     
  12. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    You can't be serious lol... Lineal? Lineal shineal lol. Sorry, but you won't get away from the fact that those guys at flyweight get titles shots after a few fights lol... Pac was experienced compared to these 3 guys Kittikasem, Arbachakov, and Sassakul to name a few lol. Those 3 guys I named received title shots after how many fights? How long did Pac hold on to that lineal title? Wasn't Pac green then, no:lol:. He was green when he lost to Morales...that's right lol.:deadForget age lol.
     
  13. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    You must've forgotten about the thread title lol...
     
  14. JohnAkiBoa

    JohnAkiBoa Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Check out the Poll result homie:rofl
     
  15. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Floyd loses polls to Cotto, Shane, and PAc on this forum all the time lol. There are enough posters here on thisforum who don't like Floyd, and vote against him in every type of poll. Rubbing these poll wins in lol...won't take away the fact that Pac lost twice by ko, lost a decision to Morales, and owns 2 draws...while Floyd is undefeated, and fought his best comp in their prime.