Better win: Leonard-Hagler or Duran-Barkley?

I'm glad he didn't keep it, though. X-Frazier just doesn't have the same ring to it.

 

Looks like my **** taking with the 'easy question' crap didn't turn out to be such an 'easy' one after all! I forgot about the Cassius X thing momentarily, let's call it a mental lapse!

 

Haha

 

I'd say thats a good assessment. I watched it in the Royal Court Liverpool. **** knows what the atmosphere was like in Ceasars.
Hagler never liked the judges in Vegas. I think he felt like he was the away fighter. Just shows why it's so hard to win a title away from home on points.
Funny enough I think Harry Gibbs was up for one of the judges and the Hagler camp objected because of what happened at the Minter fight.
Gibbs actually scored the fight for Hagler. Unofficially.

 

Duran vs Barkley was the better win imo, and it was considerably more entertaining and dramatic than the other bout as well.

 

Your last points have no barring on this poll whatsoever.

I think Leonard beat the much better fight of the two, and he was inactive and smaller too boot.

 

I realise that, but does that mean I cannot voice my opinion nonetheless?

 

Duran was smaller than Leonard and Barkley was bigger than Hagler.

Leonard was not inactive. This is a myth. He was very ready for the Hagler fight. It was his greatest performance.

Hagler was further from his prime than Barkley, though clearly Hagler was the superior middleweight prime for prime.

Duran was much further from his prime than Leonard.

Duran was coming up from lightweight, whereas Leonard was coming up from welterweight. Of course, both had settled at middleweight for quite some time.

Duran floored Barkley. Leonard slapped Hagler's gloves through most of the fight.

Duran and Barkley engaged in hand-to-hand combat and Duran weathered the storms. Leonard was going backwards all night. Had he engaged Hagler it's doubtful he would have seen the nice gift the judges were planning to give him at the final bell.

 

So it's a myth that he was inactive is it?.

 

ITS REVOLVER!!! HES BACK! :shock:

 

Duran Barkley because it was an old man beating a younger man while Leonard-Hagler was just the opposite-a young man beating an old man (controvertial of course)

By the way, I'd already seen the Weaver triplets pull it off three weeks ahead

 

Cult fans will say anything to discredit Leonard.

One guy actually said once that it hurt Hagler more than Leonard because being active burns you out.

 

This wasn't a case of a fighter going into training to fight a tune up after three years out of the ring. This was a fighter who, while waiting for Hagler to fade, was regularly fighting boxing matches behind closed doors. There was zero rust on the man for a reason. He didn't need any rounds to figure it out, to get his timing, or anything.

He learned his lesson from his first return to the ring, where he was embarrassed by a journeyman. That was the profile of an inactive fighter. The Hagler fight was a completely different situation. Leonard played the ringer. And everybody played along with the "inactive fighter" bit. "Oh, how could he do this without any tune up fights?" Because he didn't. He didn't do it without any tune up fights.

 

Ray Leonard did not fight a competitive professional boxing bout for three years after Howard before meeting a Middleweight who hadn't lost in 11 years.

Ray Leonard accomplished an amazing feat. If that had been Duran, we'd all be riding his dick for such an accomplishment.

Give the man his props.

 

So you honestly don't believe that fighting ring wars against the likes of Roldan, Hearns, and Mugabi take things out of a man such that by his mid-30s he's fading? Why do you think Hagler was brawling so much at the end of his career? Do you really believe that it was Leonard who made Hagler miss all those shots? If so, then you are a card-carrying member of the cult of Leonard. Hagler was missing because his career was at an end. He timing was off. He couldn't pull the trigger. It was the worst performance of his career (and even then he was too much for Leonard). He should have retired after Mugabi.

You really don't think that avoiding tough fights helps a fighter's career last longer? Leonard didn't take all the punishment that Hagler took during those years. You are honestly telling us that this doesn't make a difference?