Better win? Mayweather TKO10 Corrales or Lomachenko TKO10 Linares

Is Linares that great of a boxer? He's a good boxer but i never saw him to be that special. Kevin Mitchell was beating him up until the hematoma. If that went the 12 Mitchell would've got his hand raised or at least a draw.

Linares's resume doesn't scream wow tbh. Corrales had a better resume.

 

What does being undefeated have anything to do with it?

 

Corrales clearly had better resume. Linares is a very good boxer. Imo just from what I see he’s a top shelf fighter that has some skin durability issues. I mean he was making the 7th defense of his title last night and was on a 14 fight win streak.
His resume doesn’t jump out at you but he hung tough with Mitchell and dropped him late with the damaged eye, I think Campbell was a good win a Olympic gold medalist in a great technical fight. Larios years ago was good. Linares is solid, was the best 135 around and fought a man moving up in his first fight in the division. To me it’s impressive. You have to be in the moment. And not just look at who beat who, sometimes. It’s not a video game. Linares was very sharp last night. He brought his A game. And lost.

 

Chico wasn’t drained. He made 130 months earlier for Manfredy and would continue to do so for years after. He just had nothing for Floyd because Floyd wouldn’t hold still long enough.

Linares looked pretty good because Lomachenko didn’t have the power to break him down. DeMarco broke him down and Corrales would do an even more brutal version if Linares were fortunate enough to get through the early rounds.

Loma has already lost, been floored, and not granted a rematch. He just isn’t in Floyd’s class which is why last night’s fight was close.

 

Linares makes basic mistakes with his feet. He wasn't the best 135 pounder until Mikey moved up.

Campbell isn't that special in the pros. He looks great against blown up smaller fighters. He feasted on loads of journeymen for years then stepped up and lost at european level. There's top amateurs who just aren't that great in the pros. It doesn't mean anything. Some excel and some don't.

I'm not denying Linares isn't good. Cause he's a great fighter relative to today's boxing climate. I just don't think he's that special, sorry.

 

Chico’s head was not in boxing for the Floyd fight I stand by that he looked like a corpse I believe he was drained and had trouble making weight for that fight.

Linares is a good fighter That came in peak form last night and lost. It’s a great win. Yeah Loma doesn’t punch like DeMarco we know that what Loma did was more impressive because he doesn’t punch.

As for your last paragraph. Wow just wow. Bias much. Lomachenko lost in his second pro fight to a guy with 60 plus pro bouts. Floyd would have his s*** pushed in if he attempted to fight someone like that in his second fight. That’s the truth.
Look was Castillo did to a seasoned Floyd.
Lomachenko got dropped because he is a pressure fighter- fighting a bigger man. Not a back foot boxer. It’s about styles. loma Might have a short prime but he is as good as anyone i’ve Seen including Floyd.

 

Mayweather said his shoulder was injured in training going into the first fight vs Castillo.

I dunno if that is true or not, though

 

Loma already completed a series of semi-pro fights and was past age 25 and physically prime. It wasn’t analogous to Floyd’s second fight. It wasn’t even really Loma’s second fight. No rematch given.

Floyd beat Castillo while injured, gave a rematch and won pretty easily.

Loma is maxed out at 135. He’s a great talent, but not a Floyd or Pac level guy.

 

Mikey moves up Linares is/was the best 135lb.

Takes two to tango Salido didn’t want the rematch and I thought Salido fight was closer than Mayweather’s fight with Castillo, which i scored for Castillo.

Floyd’s first 12 opponents have a combined record of 122-88

Lomachenko’s is 342-30

Lomachenko has a much faster learning curve in the pros. If you want to throw in those small handful of semi pro bouts fine.

He is doing things never done before you should enjoy it.

I agree he is maxed out at 135 at 30 he is already filled out but he clearly on the level with any elite talent including pac and Floyd. You don’t go 396-1 as an amateur and win double gold if your not. Otherwise Floyd would of been able to do it but he couldn’t

 

He has more of an amature style than Pac or Floyd. The lack of power and short arms are really gonna limit him and he's defensively nowhere near Floyd. Loma is possibly now pfp number 1. Floyd and Pac took thst spot for a decade and a half. Loma will never reach that level.

 

Well he won’t reach that level because 1. He had long amateur career. Time is not on his side. 2. He is an offensive pressure fighter historically those fighters always burn out faster. 3. He is already filled out at 30 and fighting naturally larger men. If he wanted to dominate 126 for the next 6-7 years he could probably do that. But instead he seeking out challenges that should be respected.

As for his defense he is the best defensive pressure fighter that i’ve Seen. Chávez was great but subtle but not the athlete of Loma. Yes he is going to get hit more than a back foot fighter it’s what happens when you are an offense first fighter. Whitaker was the best defensive fighter i’ve Seen and he flowed from defense to offense the best i’ve Ever seen. Loma reminds me of him but in reverse from offense to defense.
Last night the sport won and the fans won let’s enjoy that and let’s enjoy Loma for however long he remains the p4p best it’s hard to knock a guy willing to take so many challenges. 3 division champ in 12 fights that is insane.

 

No disrespect
Why at that time do you think Corrales had a better resume?

Corrales had beaten Garcia and I would mention FeatherWeight Gainer as well but alot of the other opponents were coming off fairly recent losses.
I know losses get included but think Linares overall at the respective times (when Floyd fought Corrales and when Linares fought Lomachenko) has a greater overall resume due to in alot of ways more fights repectively

 

Whoever votes Linares truly doesn't know anything about boxing. Linares is good but Chico was number four p4p., Undefeated, primed.

 

Alot and a little
If I explain what I mean.

When a fight is being hyped an undefeated record seems to go further than a solid resume it seems.
For example it has IMO alot to do with the Joshua/wilder hype due to undefeated but there are a few HWs that I think have a greater resume than Wilder and a few that I think have greater singular wins but the undefeated part hypes and sells.
Many fighters when they lose their 0, seem to lose again soon after (not all). For example, J Toney was a top P4P fighter who when he lost his 0 to Jones Jnr, lost his next fight for example
Just examples

 

Corrales was undefeated and the fashion in how he won has to be taken into account. Sorry, I don't rate Crolla very highly or many other guys Linares fought.

Garcia and Gainer are better wins than Crolla 2x, Kevin Mitchell and Campbell. Campbell is european level fringe world level. He's a weight bully in the pros. His first step up he loses.

Mitchell to be fair wasn't a bad win. Crolla is basic as they come and didn't change anything in the rematch.