betting odds for Chagaev/Valuev

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  1. lenin

    lenin what the **** you say? Full Member

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    Chagaev: even

    Valuev: -130

    what do you guys think about betting on chagaev? I got $200 on this betting acount and i'm thinking about putting it all on chagaev. i was gonna throw some $ on mosley to beat judah but the pay put was ****. how safe is it to bet on chagaev?
     
  2. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    I thought Valuev was robbed the first time.

    Chagaev has looked not too good in his recent fights and Valuev looks better since their 1st fight.

    But if you want Chagaev to win, its reasonable odds, not necessary a steal.
     
  3. lenin

    lenin what the **** you say? Full Member

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    true. i do think chagaev will win but its probably not be the best idea to bet it all
     
  4. therealdeal

    therealdeal Active Member Full Member

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    I thought Chagaev won the first fight, but, I thought he was really mechanical. Walk to the side, jab, maybe throw a combo. Repeat for 12 rounds.

    I think he needs to come up with something new this fight or he is going to lose. At this point I think Valuev is going to take it.
     
  5. H .

    H . Boxing Junkie banned

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    me no bet this
     
  6. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    Man, I am a big Chag fan, but he has looked like crap lately, while Valuev won every round against Lyakovich.

    I would stay away from any bet on this fight one way or the other. All signs are pointing at Valuev, but hell, there are Euro fans on these boards who point our that Chag has not really brought his best yet as a pro. They say he used to be sharper and faster as an amatuer. So who the hell knows?
     
  7. RonnieHornschuh

    RonnieHornschuh ESB indie police Full Member

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    last time chagaev had a great gameplan, valuev seemed confused and his trainer had no answers. this time it can be the other way around. if chagaev fights as bad as against skelton and valuev pulls off a lyakhovich performance he will win. it is said that chagaev has lost his focus since he won the title, he partied a lot in usbekistan and showed little indications of the napoleon syndrome.
     
  8. Hrak

    Hrak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ill offer you the best advice, dont bet on this fight. A rule which has proven successful to me many times over, is to not bet on fights which you know are going to be close. Neither guy is gone knock the other one out, nor will any of them really take charge and win the fight by clear margins, so its just not worth putting your money into it. Mosley wining over Judah or stopping him is a much better bet.
     
  9. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had decent money on Chagaev in the first fight and believe me, I was happy seeing him winning the fight EASILY. The scorecards gave me some heart problems, but in the end he was the winner.

    But this time I wouldn't put money on either fighter. Okay, it's an UBP event, but I believe Don King is still involved. Valuev made some adjustments (jab), but still VERY EASY to hit with an overhand left and good hooks on the inside. But Chagaev wasn't impressive at all in his first defense. In fact, he was the best in knocing out Calloway a few years ago, and since then it seems his power is getting weaker. The stamina is not the best. So I don't know, my pick is still Chagaev on points, but I don't like the odds and it's like a 55-45 fight now (I though the first one was something like 70-30 for Chagaev - he's really got the tools - but can he make another A- performance?).

    So I wouldn't bet on this fight this time even if I believe Ruslan can beat Valuev 10 times out of 10 fights. I just don't know if he can perform on his own A level which is very good.
     
  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Valuev is the one who must make the adjustment as he lost the first fight when Chagaev covered up and countered him.

    If Valuev forces a sluging match, I think Chagaev hits harder, has better speed and accuracy, and takes a better punch. BUT Valuev and his sheer size can wear a guy out, and long term stamina does not seem to be Chagaev's long suit.

    I think Chagaev wins a decsion again. We'll see.
     
  11. Chillman

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  12. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I had the first bout a draw. Chagaev won the first half of the fight, Valuev won the second.

    In a rematch, I think the giant makes some adjustments and avoids those sneaky lefts.
     
  13. lenin

    lenin what the **** you say? Full Member

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  14. HauntingTheHoly

    HauntingTheHoly Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If you got 200 bucks in your account and don't ever plan on buying back in, I wouldn't put more than 25 bucks (About 12 percnet of bank) on the fight. I've only bet my entire account twice: Winky vs. Tito and PBF vs. Hatton.