BF24's P4P Top 50 - Rank 1

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by asero, Mar 23, 2020.


Who is BF24's P4P #1?

Poll closed Mar 24, 2020.
  1. Canelo Alvarez

    8 vote(s)
    36.4%
  2. Vasiliy Lomachenko

    9 vote(s)
    40.9%
  3. Naoya Inoue

    2 vote(s)
    9.1%
  4. Terence Crawford

    2 vote(s)
    9.1%
  5. Aleksandr Usyk

    1 vote(s)
    4.5%
  1. Reg

    Reg Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At this point in time, Canelo. If Loma beats Lopez he may surpass him in my view but it would have to be dominate. If It's competitive I'm not sure who I would pick.
     
  2. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can see the knowledge in this forum is wack, people have Loma ahead is laughable.
     
  3. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    As Saul Alvarez has at least 5 defeats, I have him not in my top 5.
     
  4. EvanderHolyMoly

    EvanderHolyMoly New Member booted Full Member

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    LSC is like AB, four weight champ having faced subpar opposition to earn it. What a terrible shout.
     
  5. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    He had clearly better oppsotion than Lomaschenko.

    Do you know LSC stands for Olympic Lyon and AB is in accounting the start, either in soll or haben?:thinking:
     
  6. EvanderHolyMoly

    EvanderHolyMoly New Member booted Full Member

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    Leo has Eric Morel, Victor Terrazas, Cristian Mijares, Abner Mares, Kiko Martinez and Carl Frampton. It's an okay resumé but only having six names worthy of mention is not great.
    Loma has Luke Campbell, Anthony Crolla, Jose Pedraza, Jorge Linares, Guillermo Rigondeaux, Jason Sosa, Nicholas Walters, Rocky Martinez and Gary Russell Jr. He's done this in less than half the fights and Rigondeaux, Linares, Walters and Russell Jr. are all very good wins no matter how you spin it, those guys are proven top class and were all worthy of at least a top 20, even top 15 placement at their respective peaks. He did it all quite dominantly too.
    I think Leo Santa Cruz is no joke but given the time he will fall as he keeps taking easy fights that no one takes that seriously and he doesn't benefit greatly from. Berchelt would probably maul him, Rakhimov would likely do the same and even Frampton could get him back in a rubber match. Rene Alvarado and Oscar Valdez have a shot of beating him too. Gary Russell Jr has been chasing him for years to no avail.
     
  7. Boxlight

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    Why is Usyk ahead of Spence

    Garcia, Brook and Porter are better wins than any of Usyk's wins including Gassiev
     
  8. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    He has also Malinga (who was years in the top 10 and is one of the best victims of Marquez in Bantamweight), Munoz (although past his best, but was the best super-flyweight of the previous decade in my view) and Mares had he twice.

    Linares had him on the verge of defeat (knocked him down) but was faded (was stopped in his next bout in the first round by a gatekeeper), Pedraza (who was no elite either), Walthers and especially Rigondeaux (both were pretty inactive) were in the wrong divison fought. Crolla is not much more than a fringe-contender and former paper title-holder, Sosa (who actual lost vs. Walthers before) and Campbell (who lost against fringe-contender Mendy) were similar but barely top 10, Martinez was past his best too (a left-over of Garcia and Burns) and Russel had when no notable opponent in his record, he was therefore not even top 10 (particular as he moved down from Super-Featherweight).

    But most important put him the defeat against trail-horse Salido clearly back, because who wasn't at this point elite (like Frampton was), maybe not even at his best (when he got dominated by Gamboa). Santa Cruz would have likely destroyed whom and even Frampton would have comfortable won. Because this version of Orlando Salido was like Kiko Martinez.

    At least has Leonardo Santa Cruz many more decent opponents in his record than Alexander Usyk had yet. Though I have him behind Inoue and Crawford among others.
     
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  9. ShadesOfAli

    ShadesOfAli New Member Full Member

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    Ras your posts are unreadable.

    And LSC is not in the same league as Loma please stop.
     
  10. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    Well I don't know if Loma is placed in France, but certainly not in Lique 1.
     
  11. EvanderHolyMoly

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    Jesus Christ the fact you picked the absolutely shot Alexander Muñoz or the underwhelming Vusi Malinga who were way past their best then, they were equivalent to Loma's win over Marriaga at that point. You're just so so wrong here. I already laid out who they beat and Loma has a much better record in much less time. Also you forget Walters wasn't undersized as a featherweight who had missed weight in his last fight at the weight.
     
  12. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    Marriga came from a defeat and had no notable wins. Neither Malinga, who was in opposite to Marriga some time top 10 in the division (was favourite vs. Perez and leading when he got stopped in the last round) nor Munoz did, who had at that point just 4 defeats, two of these controversial, as in the rematch vs. Castillo and the unification against Mijares, where I had him slightly winning and at that time in the pound for pound top 10.
    Malinga is rather comparable with Russel or Sosa at that time. Munoz maybe with Linares, who was must as faded, or Pedraza.
    Walthers would be far more meaningful in Featherweight and without the long lay-off, because he was there world champion and had even the lineage. In Super-Featherweight had he only fought Sosa, who was unknown and it was official a draw.

    Santa Cruz has more world title wins than Lomaschenko professional fights in total. To compare him with Broner is really crazy, he has a justified claim to be in the pound for pound top 10. I don't think that Alvarado or Hering would be predigted to defeat him by many (apart of the hater).
     


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