Bhops whole career is smoke & mirrors!

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  1. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    Last night he took numerous rest breaks, and acted like a ***** last night, he deserves all the **** he is getting.
     
  2. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    how do you have so many posts and miss the ****ing point all the time?
    i dont give a **** what age he is...if he gets in the ring, quit crying every 2 seconds , when you talk about how hard you are with prison, 20 title defenses yada yada and you roll around on the floor like he was hit with a a taser gun.
    everyone respects these guys for getting in the ring. especially for what hes done and at his age. then you look past that and hes fair game for everyone that paid to see this garbage performance.
    you justify everything a fighter does because hes a "fighter" . has nothing to do with respect as a fighter ...hes a drama queen latley
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    jeezus!

    seriously to define bhops victory over tito as a big man beating a career 147'er is a fukin disgrace!

    the man has defied the odds so many times! hell a feather fisted convict wit no speed had no right dominating the middleweight division and then beating the best lhw out there!
     
  4. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins is still my favourite fighter and a all time great, how do you like it?
     
  5. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    i agree and argued that earlier myself. however, his biggest wins (not best, biggest) were trinidad, oscar, pavlik, tarver. trinidad and oscar WERE welters. pavlik and tarver were very good wins but he tended to fight against smaller fighters. so did hagler-his biggest wins were against a welter, lightweight and junior middle respectively. however, hopkins was a big man often fighting against smaller men
     
  6. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good
     
  7. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can only imagine that William Joppy would beg to differ. Trinidad was going on such a run with a string of good wins that he was slated to move up to 168 to fight Roy Jones after Hopkins. That was a stellar win. I still remember watching that fight mouth wide open as Trinidad was outfoxed and outboxed. Tito was the favorite because despite his seemingly primitive skills, he manages to adapt and methodically destroy the majority his opponents. Don't take that away from him.

    I always felt that Tarver lost the first time around and he was doing Tarver a favor by giving him a second go around. But Tarver and DM were fighters that everyone seemed to get on Roy's case about for avoiding as a LHW. He was a top contender. Hopkins coming up in weight and beating him was a pretty big. It was good victory. Some of what you're saying makes sense but you gotta be a little more objective.

    Well to be fair there were a number of people who thought that Hopkins beat Calzaghe. I personally don't see it but he gave a good account of himself to the extent that his stock didn't plummet. Pavlik was a very good win. Remember Kelly at that point had never lost, was coming off 2 big wins over Jermain Taylor and had beaten HBO's "hype job" Edison Miranda.
    People thought that Bernard would get slaughtered because they didn't think he had enough left in the tank to get the job done. And Bernard proved everyone wrong. Give this win its proper due. Its only right.


    At the time Bernard fought Kelly, he wasn't considered a one dimensional bum. He was considered the man at 160 for getting rid of Taylor who people complained was HBO's hype job. (I personally didn't think Taylor was a hype job- but thats another thread)

    Taylor was touted as the future of the division. Considering how Taylor has performed in every fight, win lose or draw he alwyas pushes each and every single one of this opponents to the limit.

    Froch, Abraham, Winky and Pavlik couldn't beat Jermain easy. They had to work for it. Especially Froch. So Taylor was no paper champ.
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    Mate, no1 picked him against tito nor pavlick...de la hoya was the only other belt holder, that fight had to be made...an im pretty sure he was underdog vs winky? could be wrong bout last one but dont think so...calzaghe was not smaller...anyone i missed?
     
  9. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because most of these **** talkers never have done anything more physical than a tae bow video. If you put on gloves and actually try some of this **** you get an appreciation not available through just simply watching it.
     
  10. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I actually stuck up for the fighters... Congratulations on your reading comprehension. And did you mean loser or looser? :cool:
     
  11. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Am i missing somthing??? I was under the impression he was undisputed for 4 years.......

    :patsch

    Looks like you did fake that :lol::lol:
     
  12. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    See through the BS. If you follow boxing there was a fighter Sid Vanderpol.
    Guy was destroying people. I remember being nervous thinking it would be a tough fight for Hopkins. After they fought you probably never heard more of him.
    And Jermaine Taylor if you don't think that fight wad fixed by somebody when Duane Ford who never scored a round wrong in his life scored round 12 for a wobbling Taylor who landed 2 punches in the round giving Taylor the title from a man who defended it 20 times in a row. Normally you have to murder someone to get the title. Hopkins career is the opposite of what you say and u must be talking about Roy Jones who never once had a shot to even hurt Hopkins.
     
  13. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The first hopkins fight was not fixed.... That fight was not a clear win for either fighter..... Besides, the way hopkins acted like a complete ***** after that fight, complaining and **** like he got completly jobbed, **** him....
     
  14. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look at boxrec.com Duane Ford is an amazing judge.
    if you pulled 1000 people off the street and showed them round 12 of Taylor Hopkins 1, 1000 people score the round 10-9 Hopkins.
    Taylor did not land anything and was nearly out on his feet. Yet Duane Ford scored it 10-9 taylor and the other judges had 10-9 Hopkins. It was a disgrace. That one round if scored remotely normal by a very normal judge, Duane Ford would have caused a Draw and Hopkins keeps his belt.
    Took away the title from Hopkins after he broke history by something other than fairness. To give the title to the challenger who was out on his feet was pathetic. To have it taken away from the man who defended it the most times in boxing history is borderline criminal. Whatever Hopkins said after the fight was warranted. Where is Jermaine now? Hopkins shut out the man that knocked him out, Pavlik and just beat Roy Jones and came out with the best entrance since Naseem Hamed.
     
  15. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So are you saying that fight is a CLEAR win for hopkins????

    Thats bull****..... That fight could have gone either way.....

    BHOP didnt do **** for the first 6 rounds...... Hes only got himself to blame.....

    I can see how someone gave the fight to taylor, i can see how somone gave the fight to hopkins, and i can see the fight being a draw.....

    How is giving the fight to taylor criminal????? Alot of people thought he won, and you cant say hopkins won more than 2 of the first 8 rounds :-(