Biased Ref Caught Cheerleading Kell Brook To Unleash Uppercuts on Spence

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Err the lack of drug testing...
    @Pakkuman I'll let you take this one.
    Usyk wasn't a match room fighter. He was also coming over sees.
    I don't take your scores seriously given you think Wilder outpointed Fury...
    And that was definitely a close fight.
    Agreed. That was worse.
    1. It's not given he was cleared
    2. No one gives a flying **** if you do or don't.
    You mean cleared after he provided evidence to show he wasn't on steroids?
    No. No he really isn't. He's not even comparable to Mayweather.
    Well seeing the right person win is an agenda I can relate to.
     
  2. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Howard Foster is an incompetent ref. However, it doesn’t look like he’s saying that at all
     
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  3. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Talk about a conspiracy.
    You are reading into what you want to see. Go rewatch the fight. The ref was constantly instructing both men not to hold. And he did that uppercut motion plenty of times when Brook was holding behind the head.

    First you said that Foster told brook to "uppercut him" and then it was "come on". So which is it? What did you and your lip reading powers pick up on? :lol:

    Stop being bias towards the British boxing scene. Ridiculous moments from referees happen everywhere. Ottke had his own special bodyguards in Germany. Abraham's opponents weren't allowed to throw bodyshots.
    Lawrence Cole told Marquez that he was ahead on the scorecards :lol:
    Floyd could initiate a clinch and the referee would instantly stop the action. (**** YOU Kenny Bayless! Ruined a lot of fights)
     
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  4. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    When Usyk fought bellew he was under matchroom. He signed with them September 2018 and fought bellew in November 2018. The months do not go in reverse

    So please get your facts correct

    As for Thurman vs Pacquaio, there was no controversy in the fight. You complain about the lack of drug testing but that played no factor in the fight itself. If bother fighters are on roids they are on a level playing field.

    As for Dillian he was requested to provide a B sample because he had failed his test. He declined and the corrupt boxing agencies in the uk allowed him to fight on even though he had a host of drugs pumping through his system

    So how can he have proven without doubt he was clean? He exploited a loophole, since the rules are that if the b sample isn't submitted then UKAD have to allow the fight to take place

    The fact is Rivas wasn’t made aware of the serious risk he was taking getting in the ring against someone pumped full of dangerous high potent steroids which brings forth legal ramifications.

    All this whille Rivas himself had just recently underwent numerous life changing eye surgery operations which Matchroom, Eddie Hearn and Dillian were fully aware of

    Yet all the talk that I have seen so far is along the lines of ''Poor Dillian''

    Til this day we still do not have word of his B sample test which should have been expedited in a manner of urgency so we could see what's really in his blood days after the fight. Not wait until it clears his system, then test him. This is madness!

    As for Wilder it is a fact he is the most hated man in boxing right now without justification. The last time we ever saw this level of hatred was with Mayweather. It's nothing to do with ring ability so don't get confused and think I'm comparing their abilities.
     
  5. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    In the video you see what you what to see. Even if you could hear live clear audio recording of the ref shouting ''I want you to win Brook'', you'd attempt to spin it into another ridiculous interpretation

    The video clearly shows Foster trying to motivate Brook before he then slyly motions to Brook to uppercut Spence when Errol has his guard down.

    My pov isn't about bias it's about reality. Concentrated corruption doesn't happen anywhere else in the world of boxing.

    You've highlighted fights where bias took place across different parts of the world.

    British boxing is currently rife with it. Ruiz or any other oversea champion should be obligated to fight over there, ever.

    Lomachenko is in for a rude awakening when he goes to Campbell, there believing he is going to be free to do his job.I will bet anyone here that in that fight Campbell will get his protection in some form even though it will fall in vain.

    If you believe there isn't a problem, then lets leave our cards on the table with fiendly ban bet if you have the stomach for it?
     
  6. Badbot

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    When did the ref shout ''I want you to win Brook''? :lol: I mean seriously, point out the round and time, I really want to hear that. Would definitely change my perspective.

    The only reason why Ruiz would be obligated to fight in the U.K., is because he already signed a contract in which he agreed to it.
    Same with anyone who goes through a purse bid.

    Loma chose to fight over in the U.K. and will likely have to deal with some hometown shenanigans. But you so loosely interpreting everything leaves me unable to take any bad bets.
    You gave two different versions of what happened in the clip you highlighted...
     
  7. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    I never gave two different versions,. I highlighted two sequenced actions committed by the referee. Moments before he rallies for Brook to throw the uppercut he is saying something to Brook as any coach would, while motioning with his hands as if he a fanboy sat on his living room sofa

    As for Ruiz, as I have always maintained he will fight in America or there is no fight at all. No secure venue was written in the initial contract.

    Hearn and his muscle bound HGH addicted synthetic gut bodybuilding robot misguidedly believe that they can bully Ruiz into accepting unreasonable terms for the rematch. We will see them in court and find out if the Judge thinkd serving out slave contracts to a holding champion is right and just.
     
  8. Badbot

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    I forgot, you are completely nuts :lol:
    "As if to say"??? That's doesn't mean he actually said what you are accusing him of.

    And as for Ruiz, he agreed to the terms. And it is rumored that the venue and date were up to AJ/Matchroom or w/e.
    And again, you seem to be more emotional than logical. Ruiz signed a contract and he has to oblige by it. If it truly is unlawful, then he will have no issues getting out of it. But since he already hasn't, then that means that there is nothing wrong with the contract.
     
  9. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Today contracts mean nothing. You will find that out in due course.

    Had it been the case that it was all iron clad and set in stone, then the rematch would have already been booked to take place in the uk, as the lying snake Hearn was shooting his arrogant adamant mouth off for the last month that it would be so.

    Now Hearn after revealing that couldn't happen thought he was clever by offering for the fight to take place in the medieval Saudi Arabian desert so his boy could juice his bones to his heart's content.

    Knowing full well that those corrupt Saudi Princes would not only turn a blind eye to his doping, they’ll be lending a helping to provide the syringes in person to AJ the dope fiend coward who needs drugs to fight.

    In the court of law, Ruiz has more than justifiable grounds to renege on a contract which is clearly unreasonable in relation to it's value and worth, and proposed location in a country where hardly anyone has reasonable human rights.
     
  10. BCS8

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    Er, no.

    Canelo handily takes the crown of "more hated" from Wilder.

    I crap on Wilder for a lot of stuff but he's had like one controversial result against Fury. Canelo has 5-6 dodgy results. Wilder never stole his belt.

    Wilder appears to be clean, CLENelo was bust twice.

    Wilder doesn't play weight games, Canelo does.

    Yeah, OK Wilder's fought a bunch of bums in the main, but he's stepped it up lately and I suspect he might continue doing so.
     
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  11. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    There is no justifiable hatred for a Wilder which is why I say he is the most hated. People dislike canelo for justifiable reasons. That's the difference. Wilder is the only current active heavyweight who is fighting back to back the toughest challenges yet still receives hate.

    Fury is fighting bum after bum in Gypsy bum city, and is given the green light to do so by his sycophants. Meanwhile Wilder is fighting Ortiz again, a fighter no one else in the top 10 wants to fight and is ridiculed for doing so with many fools calling him 60 year old grandpa.

    Ortiz must be the baddest grandpa on the planet considering no one of note has stepped up to fight him except Wilder.

    The reason being so he can give Ortiz another big pay deal so he can comfortably take care of his sick daughter who suffers from epidermolysis bullosa.

    And still we don't see long self pitying documentaries from either Ortiz or Wilder about their struggles with parenting children with debilitating illnesses. They just get on with it

    Fury goes on pity party tours talking about his drug binges after being caught for using steroids and we're meant to see him as some kind of hero
     
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  12. Jacko

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    Foster does that arm motion at numerous times in that fight, and in many other fights he has refereed. You'll notice he does it when fighters are punching low or holding too much.

    British boxing has its problems, but Sephiroth, you are reading too much into this. Not for the first time, either.

    Also, Wilder receives so much criticism for largely fighting poor opposition. Yes, he has fought Fury and Ortiz. But, the rest of his resume is uninspiring. Plus, other than when throwing a jab-straight right combo, his technique is appalling.
     
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  13. BCS8

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    I don't agree with everything but you do make some good points.
     
  14. granth

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    Still undisputed worst poster on here I see...