Big Baby Miller will beat Anthony Joshua.

Aydamn · Feb 19, 2019

CST80 said: ↑

No, I said they all had a chance, and the fact that two of them almost stopped AJ, a third was outboxing him, and the other arguably outpointed him and was in fact NOT DEFINITIVELY STOPPED. Proves that my this is possible... was actually a little more accurate that all the AJ Goons proclaiming easy work, KO's For Life *****es!!!! They said easy work, AJ walks right through them, I said AJ will struggle and could lose. Kind of like what @f1ght3rz is doing with this thread. But for some reason the mere thought of deviating away from the talking points of Eddie Hearn's Stormtroopers provokes an all out assault. You guys are all bitchy and hyper defensive for a reason, you know he's as flawed as we say he is, yet can't bring yourselves to admit it.
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No sane person here would avoid admitting AJ's flaws, guess what... even AJ admits his own flaws.

I understand you want to protect your best friends thread, I get you are all part of the same crew/friends/usa gang whatever...

But it is an insult to put Miller on the same level as AJ compettiively, when Miller has done nothing of note to justify the praise.

As for Wlad? Yeah he caught AJ with his best punch, isn't he known for punching power? Dr Steelhammer, brother of Dr Ironfist?

Well AJ got up in good time. And have Wlad down badly three different times, he almost decapitated Wlad, like literally.

Parker wasn't competitive at all, anyone who says otherwise DKSAB. Parker was just surviving, he was never winning.

Whyte had a lucky shot, and was competitive at times but it is clear as day he got outclassed by a fitter and more skilled opponent.

We are being defensive because you guys are distastefully asserting lower class done-jack all-fighters above the tried, proven, got the t shirt (belt) Joshua.

AJ is on top for a reason, he TOOK the hard fights, show some respect before elevating Jarrel nobody Miller above him.

It's sickening.Total disrespect.

Aydamn · Feb 19, 2019

Truth be told Miller is lucky to be getting this chance, so he and his fans need to calm the **** down.

He should be going through Chisora, or Joyce or breazeale or some other tougher opponent before getting a title shots.

Count your blessings, and enjoy Miller popping his virginity.

Bustajay · Feb 19, 2019

Big Baby puts AJ to the maximum test. AJ did take a heck of a KD from old Klit who can hit and recovered to win.

I am not sure Big Baby can beat him but he will put some dents in the body builder

Gatekeeper · Feb 19, 2019

Difficult fight to predict IMO because Miller hasn't beaten anyone in the top 10 and his chin has yet to be tested by a real puncher but what he does have in his arsenal is stamina, size, good power, good variety of punches and self belief.
Still going to pick AJ to win but if Miller has a good chin this may be closer than a lot of people are predicting.

BeaverDan · Feb 19, 2019

f1ght3rz said: ↑

You can quote me later on. But you heard it first in here.

So, what's the deal about the fight? I only read "easy night of work", "Miller is garbage" and such a trash talk. Why? No arguments made.

I give you my thoughts about the fight.

If there is a pattern in Joshuas resume then it is the body composition of his opponents.
Only for the book: Big Baby Miller is 6'4 and weighed in at 315 and 317 in his last two fights. I doubt he will lose weight for the Joshua fight. I think he will pack some more pounds on, i can see him above 320 comes fight night. We'll see.
Joshuas has only faced SMALL SIZED opponents throughout his pro career. There were two exceptions but i will come to that later on.
Let's take a detailed look on his resume since he started fighting for titles and solid opponents:
- Alexandr Povetkin: 6'2 and 222 lb
- Joseph Parker: 6'4 and 236 lb
- Carlos Takam: 6'1 and 235 lb
- Wladimir Klitschko: 6'6 and 240 lb
- Eric Molina: 6'4 and 237 lb
- Dominic Breazeale: 6'7 and 255 lb
- Charles Martin: 6'5 and 245 lb
- Dillian Whyte 6'4 and 247 lb

So it's clear that his biggest opponent in terms of weight was Dominic Breazeale who came in at 255 lb. I won't do the maths for you all but you can see it: Big Baby Miller will likely come in 60-70 lb heavier than the heaviest opponent Joshuas has fought.

Considering Joshua himself is a big HW with a bodybuilder like body composition despite being not that heavy (245-255 lb) and an above average height (6'6) he is physically clearly(!!!) superior most of the time. There were three exceptions: Klitschko, Breazeale and Martin. Klitschko nearly stopped Joshua. He dropped him but couldn't finish the job because he was old and probably past his prime, still he was the guy who put Joshua on his ass. Klitschko is a boxer. Jab, jab, jab, straight right. He can only box his style, he is no brawler, no pressure fighter, has almost no inside game as he's a typical clincher. Breazeale is a boxer too. Breazeale wasn't pressuring Joshua with his size or even his jab, he was boxing and he got caught. Easy. Martin was the third exception. No idea if i have to write a lot about that fight. Martin probably quit before he entered the ring. He wanted the payday and he got it. Once he got caught the fight was over.

So what we've got here? Miller IS a pressure fighter. Style makes fights. Everyone who boxed on his own knows that size matters. If a guy with +60 lb more on his ribs comes into the ring and wants to fight you you've got some respect. Joshuas experience with those kind of opponents is almost ZERO. He has never faced anyone like Miller. Neither a similar style nor a similar size.

Miller is a 6'4 320lb pressure fighter with high volume output and good movement for his weight. He's clearly not the best boxer but he also can jab his way through a round as we saw vs. Washington. He isn't a blind basher. But he can box different styles. He can fight from the distance with his jab or he can grind you down with high volume. WITH HIS SIZE. I doubt Joshua or anyone out here can imagine how it feels if a guy like Miller is coming for you. I mean take a look at the Dinu fight. Dinu clearly wasn't in shape and also lacking will & heart but he started well on the backfoot. Miller wasn't pressuring at all in the first two rounds so Dinu had time and space to breathe and he won those first two rounds in my opinion. But what happened after? Miller raised the pressure enormously, he started to throw bigger shots and he started to raise his work rate and from that point it was clear as a whistle that the fight is basically over. I do not want to comment on the knockdowns or the stoppage but Dinu himself is 6'5 and came in 237 lb. He wasn't a small opponent. No Adamek. Miller eat him alive. A bigger opponent. Easily. I really think the size of Miller is a factor which is MASSIVELY underrated here. There are weight classes in boxing for a reason. If Miller comes in 60 lb heavier than Joshua which is not only possible, it's probably an underrated number, this would be 8 different weight classes in the normal boxing ladder. Yeah, i know the comparison isn't ideal but you all know what i mean. Or take a look at the Adamek fight. I know Adamek is a former LHW/CW and also shot to pieces + old but i mean Adamek fought some big powerful HWs in his career like Vitali Klitschko or Eric Molina and he lasted 10 rounds with both of them. Miller smoked him in 50 seconds!!! 50 seconds!!! Another factor is: How to prepare for such a guy? Miller is unique. There is no other HW in the world with his style, variety AND size. Not a single one.

In my opinion Miller can win the fight on both occasions: on points or via stoppage. He hast the work rate to outwork Joshua throughout the rounds. Joshua was fighting really conservative Klitschko like in his last two fights. Now he'll have to go for it if he wants the stoppage. Miller won't be as easy to crack as Povetkin. And he won't fight like Parker too who was running most of the time (no discredit). He's fighting in Millers backyard. Joshua is vulnerable. We all know that. No matter if fan or hater or just a boxing fan. He was rocked by Whyte. He was dropped by Klitschko. He was rocked by Povetkin. But the thing is: If Miller rocks him once, he'll get all in, he will unleash everything he has, Miller is a killer if he hurts an opponent once. Look at his stoppages.

I predict Miller beating Joshua on June 1st. I know everyone is laughing at me but we'll see. Maybe i am wrong, the odds are against me obviously, but i am pretty sure this will be a hell of a fight for Joshua and his biggest test yet. I predict this will be a close fight and i do not see Joshua stopping Miller. Mark my words. Yeah, i do not see Joshua stopping Miller but i do see Miller stopping Joshua. Yes, boys.

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You make good points, yet miss a glaringly obvious one.

You forget Miller is fairly easy to hit. And Joshua hits really hard.

In the end, that's all that will matter.

gdm · Feb 19, 2019

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This will be Joshua's Sam Peter fight , even though Miller is better than Peter.

I wonder if AJ hits the deck 3 times , goes n life death , having to hold on for dear life round after round like Wlad did against his lesser version of Miller.
Hmmmm .

@gdm
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Peter was much better than miller and he could punch . Easy fight for stiff boy ,he will finish miller in 8 rounds.

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