Here we go. Thank you Drexl. While you are not a troll...you sometimes develop "troll tendencies" And the fight looked like a carbon copy of their first fight, but without Wlad tiring out. I don't see how any judgments can be made about whether this was a "worse" Brewster.
As far as unification goes, no one unified during Don King's time in the spotlight. Now that he's out, you can give Wlad some flack. But there's also been a lot of poor timing as far as his fights, comparatively to other champions... Not to mention...the other champions keep LOSING their title!
I'ts not different. Widdow's remarks were spot on,Drexl got caught in a embarrassing double-standard and there no explaining otherwise. You conveniently bring in some other caveats, to rationalize your theory, but it doesn't fly.
Riiiight... and Lewis fans like yourself? He was "robbed" against McCall? He lost to Rahman because he was "unmotivated, and the altitude":rofl Hell, everytime that Lewis had a bad performance there was an excuse, or that wasn't the "real" Lennox Lewis. Also, I am glad that you brought up unification yet again. Well, Lewis was proclaimed WBC Champion for the first time at the tail end of 1992. He didn't have any unification fights until 7 years later in 1999. I will BET that you have an excuse as to why Lennox didn't have any unification fights for 7 years, now don't you? Let me guess... the other Champs weren't willing to fight him? Hmmmm... sounds familiar.
fair enough every fan makes excuses for their fighters but no one other fans make such ridiculous excuses as the klitschko fans
Bull****... such as? Outside of the Brewster fight which I don't know one person in the real world who saw it, that didn't think it was extremely shady.... what other fight has had such outlandish excuses? Wlad vs Puritty... Wlad gassed out, fact... watch the fight. Gassing out isn't an excuse, it is a part of boxing and Ross won the fight fair and square. Wlad vs Sanders... yes, I think that Wladimir was obviously overlooking Sanders, but that isn't an excuse in my book either. Wlad should have been professional and took that fight just as serious as any other fight. Sanders won that fight fair and square, in devastating fasion. Vitali vs Byrd.... Vitali was dominating Byrd and had to stop fighting due to a full thickness tear of his rotator cuff... he had surgery on it days later. Not sure if that is a crazy excuse? I mean, it is the reality of what happened in the fight. Vitali vs Lewis... Vitali was winning the fight, and was stopped on cuts. That is a fact. Yes, he lost the fight, but anyone with an open mind could see that it was a fight that he was winning. There are no excuses there... it is a fact that he was stopped on cuts. So, outside of the Brewster fight where 5 different people might have 5 different opinions.... people are just discussing the well known facts. Vitali WAS stopped on cuts vs Lewis, right? Vitali did call it quits while dominating Byrd due to a shoulder injury, right? Wlad was clearly gassed out and exhausted when his cornerman stopped the fight while Wlad was on his feet against Ross the Boss, right? And it is pretty easy to see how Wlad was overlooking Sanders, as most of the world was doing the same.
No ****... you agreed that every fan has excuses for their fighters losses... and I agree too. However, you said that nobodies excuses were as ridiculous as the Klitschko fans... and I was asking what is so ridiculous about those general excuses for those fights. Get the point? They are all facts, and their fans happen to believe that without those circumstances they would have been the winner. Pretty common stuff. Like I said, outside of the Brewster fight which is crazy in everyone's eyes... the excuses used for their losses are no worse than the excuses that others use for their fighters.
What happened to 'WALDO lost against Sanders because he didn't know what to do when someone punched him' :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
The only fight i've seen ridiculous excuses for was Wlad vs. Brewster. Fact is, with Vitali's losses, like them or not, they were result of injury. It is a win, fair and square for his opponents...but at the same time, it doesn't answer the question we want answered after each fight: who is the better fighter, head to head? We can look at it at face value, but that's not how real fans of the sport look at things. We want to know HOW someone did what they did in the ring, not just the end product. And Wlad lost fair and square against Purrity and Sanders. Both devestating losses that a lot of fighters would not recover so easily from.
There are excuses, and explanations. Different things. Excuses are there to say why something wasn't somebodies fault. Explanations are WHY something happened. I like Lewis (I like Waldo too really, just not his rabid fans). I have no EXCUSES for Lewis losing. He lost because of arrogance (Rahman) and poor technique (McCall). Maybe unlucky to be stopped v McCall, but he should have counted against that by not being put on his arse in the first place. However, the EXCUSES for the K bros are embarrassing. Drugs. Yeah, he lost on cuts but was WINNING the fight. (so ****ing what? Lewis was WINNING v Rahman too....) Rotator cuffs hurt. (yep, they do. But he had a choice. Like Danny Williams did fighting with a dislocation or whatever he did, and KOing someone). He was green and gassed out, but he was WINNING easily. All excuses. All attempts to say "they lost, but they didn't really". I can admit Lewis lost his 2 fights fair and square. No IF's or BUT's. Can all Vitlay and WAld fans say the same?
You obviously didn't read the article (which was written by a hall-of-fame boxing journalist) and don't know much about the situation... Firstly, the Klitschkos were informed by the lab of the procedure for having the samples kept, but they didn't respond. Second, they have PHD's in sports science, surely they know a thing or 2 about sporting medical procedures, or at least that there are procedures that they need to follow and need to ask about if they don;t already know them? Third, if they didn't know and didn't bother to find out about the procedures that is their own dumb fault and doesn't IN ANY WAY indicate a conspiracy or "outside influence". ONCE AGAIN, because you are obviously a slow learner, I chose to talk about ALL OF THE TIMES that unification fights have been mentioned, but didn't happen. If you thought I meant something else, too bad. I'M TELLING YOU WHAT I MEANT. You cannot tell me what I mean. Get it through your thick skull. If the champs at the time of this fight was what YOU were talking about, fine. If you aren't responding to what I was talking about, STFU. OF ****ING COURSE I know how many belts there are, jackass. You don't need to repeat it over and over, it's irrelevant. This fight alone is NOT what I was talking about. Want proof?? - HERE IS A QUOTE FROM BEFORE YOU EVEN OPENED YOUR MOUTH...... Consider yourself exposed and schooled. I am. Thanks. :good
Care to show me where I EVER said any of that. Both Lennox's losses were 100% legit, fair & square. And I have never EVER said otherwise.
