Big fights that would've been different if both were prime

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Foreman v Frazier
     
  2. turnip

    turnip Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Benn =Collin's .at middle 1990.would have been a war could have gone either way.
     
  3. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

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    Lol who is this puppet?
     
  4. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

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    Yeah. Foreman stops the smaller frazier faster
     
  5. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler-Leonard
    Liston-Ali
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  6. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

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    Leonard would be capable to beat hagler,ali humiliates liston always
     
  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I would have liked to see a better prepared C00ney fight Spinks.
     
  8. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

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    Ron lyle vs gerry ****ey

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  9. foreman&dempsey

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    Foreman vs morrison

    Foreman vs holyfield

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  10. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cornelius Boza-Edwards v. Jose Luis Ramirez

    Prime for prime Ramirez may still have won but it would have been a war.
     
  11. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hector Camacho v. Julio Cesar Chavez

    Would have been much more competitive than their actual fight.
     
  12. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    So, the winners would be...

    Jones
    Holmes
    Ali
    Mosley
    Chavez
    Whitaker
    Leonard

    I'll agree with that. I'll add-

    Holyfield vs. Lewis I and II (I thought Lewis won the 1st and a case can be made that Holyfield won the rematch)

    Holyfield vs. Ruiz II & III (I thought Holyfield won their 3rd fight)

    Holyfield vs. Byrd (Holyfield started too late but was closing the gap in the scoring toward the end of the fight)

    Holyfield vs. Toney

    Holyfield vs. Donald

    Ibragimov vs. Holyfield

    Valuev vs. Holyfield (I thought the 46 year old Holyfield was robbed)

    The most "unsure" pick being Lewis... but I really do think that "prime vs. prime" Holyfield wins.

    As for Bowe and Lewis? I think that Holyfield was better. Holyfield was in his prime years when he lost to Bowe the first time but took him lightly IMO. In their 3rd bout Holyfield was clearly not 100%. Holyfield won their 2nd fight.

    Holyfield was clearly not 100% in his first fight vs. Moorer. I still thought Holyfield did enough to keep his title belts though. Holyfield stopped Moorer in their rematch.

    On a side note...

    at age 30 he was 28-0 (22) overall, 10-0 (7) in World Tile fights, and 5-0 (2) vs. Hall of Famers Qawi x2, DeLeon, Foreman, and Holmes. He had been the Undisputed CW Champ and was the reigning Undisputed HW Champ.

    He would go on to win 6 more World Title fights and fight to a draw in 2 World Title fights. Sure, he would lose 7 more World Title fights but he was over 40 years old in 3 of these fights (Byrd, Ibragimov, and Valuev), the other 4 were competitive fights to say the least (Bowe I, Moorer I, Lewis II, and Ruiz II).

    Holyfield beat more Lineal HW Champs than any other fighter (7). He beat Douglas, Foreman (Hall of Famer), Holmes (Hall of Famer), Bowe (Hall of Famer), Tyson (Hall of Famer) x2, Moorer, and Rahman. He also drew with Lineal HW Champ Lewis (Hall of Famer). Joe Louis beat 6, Schmeling, Sharkey, Carnera, Baer, Braddock, and Walcott x2.They are all in the Hall of Fame.
     
  13. daverobin

    daverobin Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    :deal:deal:deal
    plus this
    ruddock v morrison
    tyson v lewis
    tyson v d williams
    tyson v mcbride
    wlad v fury
     
  14. daverobin

    daverobin Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    nah styles make fights you can get foreman from 1992 v frazier of 71 and foremans still gonna beat frazier
     
  15. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Leonard vs Camacho

    Hector God bless him would`ve ran for his life if Ray had been at or near his peak.