Ill keep it fairly modern as the older fights are harder to come by but ive never watched: Ali/Frazier 2 - just because i was told by many sources that it was not a good fight and was one sided anyway Leonard/duran 3 - knowing the result and hearing it was boring i still attempted this, got to round 7 and gave up Jones Jnr/Toney - havent got round to it yet
You pick up a little from each fight you watch though, if you're open to it. Hell, I put myself through Galindez-Gregory a couple weeks ago just so I could learn a little more. I had no expectation of even a GOOD fight, let alone a great one. Turns out it wasn't horrifically bad after all. Not great, but I was awake at the end of it, and I came away with a little more in the knowledge bank for my efforts.
i do plan to watch them at some point, but at the min theres better fights for me to watch though so i gotta put them in some sort of order of what to watch. Ive watched a lot of fights by the guys ive mentioned so im in no hurry to see eveything theyve done when theres some good boxers ive never even watched before:good
Hagler/Duran Camacho/Rosario Ali/Frazier 2 Barrera/Morales 3 (Even though I have the fight on DVD) Holmes/Cooney
Of the fights that have come up so far, I'd recommend Ali-Frazier II first. Harry Carpenter wrote that this was the first time in the 1970s that Ali truly recovered the speed he had in the 1960s. Joe no longer had the chip on his shoulder, having won the FOTC, and it wasn't expected that either would ever hold the heavyweight crown again with Foreman in the way. However, Ali was out for redemption after the loss three years earlier. He was battle ready following the grueling second tryst with Norton (followed by the interlude with Lubbers), and this was the final time he would ever compete at his peak precision weight of 212 pounds. This may well be the fight between the two which most closely resembles what a Frazier challenge of Ali might have looked like in 1969, if Muhammad had never gone into exile (albeit with less holding and more running by the GOAT).
How did you have the fight? I thought many rounds were very close and it basically dependet on what you like more.
Well, I haven't carefully analyzed and broken it down in ages, but felt at the time that 8-4 to 7-5 in rounds for Ali was about right. My youthful impression was that Joe was doing an awful lot of futile chasing, swinging and missing, while Muhammad's jabbing and straight punching at range was cleaner and effective. Regarding Ali's clinching, I bought into Perez's assertion that he was not fouling because he was not holding and hitting. (Again, I was young.) Concerning Frazier, the question has to be whether or not his aggression was effective. I thought Muhammad neutralized it well. The next time I review it, I will strive to score it as favorably for Joe as I can, and see if I can somehow have him as the winner. (This may entail a punch count, especially body shots, often colorless blows that get overlooked. Ali generally gave those away, but I thought his running and clinching denied Smoke opportunities to unload from beneath.)
Benitez-Palomino...it's funny...I've seen both men's fights with their common denominator...Roberto Duran...but not Benitez-Palomino for some reason...there hasn't been too many big fights in the past 40-45 years that I haven't seen....another is Robinson-Turpin.
I will never admit to not seeing any fight ever. It only opens you up to criticism as a poster. They nearly burned Addie at the stake the last time he admitted guilt via non-seenedness of a fight. I have seen all fights since the bare knuckle neanderthal champions and will see every fight that ever happens. I do nothing but watch fights. I have fights that no TV station has taped sent to me from all over the globe of people you've never heard of and I'm watching them right now. So there. Poor Joe. That was really brutal.