**Big mistake from Hatton fans on the fight***

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  1. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Hatton has powerful legs and that his all he has on mayweather. Mayweather is strong all the way around and is most definitely strong up top. Hatton is strong at holding and pushing guys back with his leg strength. He wont be able to use his leg strength with floyd b/c floyd will have him moving alot more then he as ever had to. It aint going to be like he can clinch floyd whenever he wants. Floyd has more stamina in the type of fight that it would be. B/c FLoyd can use the ring all night and still have energy left. Hatton never had to use his legs like he would have to with floyd. DONT FORGET I SAID THIS. DONT BE SURPRISED IF HATTON LOSES STEAM IN THE MIDDLE TO LATE ROUNDS>
     
  2. Sai

    Sai Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Theyll both weigh in at about 150 on fight night.
     
  3. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    I didnt say PBF was weak:nono I said, he isnt stronger than Hatton. You saw JLC push PBF back, what did Hatton do to JLC??? How about Tszyu?? A guy who had very good strength and a strong bench for a boxer. Hatton is physically strong and PBF isnt a big WW. Hatton is the stronger fighter and there's no doubt in my mind what so ever, that when they do come to a clinch?? Hatton will do the pushing.

    Now strength itself isnt a be all by any means. Leverage, positioning, and angles are very important in overcoming such a disadvantage. If PBF is gonna win?? He's gonna have to outbox and out skill Hatton. If he wants to prove something on the inside?? I'll be a happy, happy guy DEC 8:good
     
  4. Toopretty

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    Hatton wont get anything done on the inside a bunch of missed punches with his short little arms. Floyd can get out of his range too easy and back in FLoyd will take it to the inside after making hatton tired from coming after him eating right hands for 6-7 rounds then the fun begins. Give me a break Hatton is outskilled and outmatched it is not even funny. On second thought, yeah it is to see you same guys posting all kinds of excuses after the fight. But it aint until christmas time and it is still hot as ****. I dont even want to talk about this one until about 2 weeks before. ...DOOMSDAY for the hopeless guys that think hattons pressure will be effective on Floyd...Hatton never had to actually pursue and opponent. Nobody ever moved away from Hatton. They came right at him. :admin
     
  5. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    You have been steady in you're assesment, but?? Dont forget that DLH was able to push and get Floyd against the ropes. ALL he had was BS pitty, pat, body slaps behind it. That wont be the case with Hatton:good

    As far as stamina?? I didnt see anything exceptional against DLH in that regard either. DLH is always known to gas late and it seriously impacted the pts in that decision. Now PBF has generally had good stamina but his work rate and out put has decreased in his last few fights, so I'm not willing TO ASSUME stamina is in his favor in this fight.

    Hatton went 11 tough physical rounds against Tszyu who was a very physically strong boxer and still had plenty left. I see a very close fight going right down to the wire here, and PBF better have more than he did vs DLH or?? He might take his first OFFICIAL L.
     
  6. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    I whole heartedly disagree. Hatton took breaks against tsyu as he does with Urango Collazo or anybody else. Hatton never had to work hard to cut the ring off and then he aint going to keep Floyd in one spot then he got to use all this energy coming in again. B/c if hatton lets up the pressure floyd is going to box the **** out of him. Hatton cant keep up with Floyd like he did with the TIRED ass TSYU that was gased with his hands low at round 8. ODH left hook to anywhere is more powerful then anything hatton throws. The shots were not all slapping. ODH hit floyd with some big shots that Hatton does not have half the power of ODH. The key reason hatton is going to get brutalized is the way he pushes forward. That by no way will work on Floyd. Gloves low like gatti. Relying on head feints like gatti. And key point. Hatton dont tuck his chin He is short but he is str8 up and down coming in, he dont crouch get under punches or nothing just comes at you face first and clinches. It will look like the corrales fight early hatton getting countered chasing floyd around although floyd is not as fast anymore. But he dont need to be.
     
  7. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    ALl I can say to you? Is you have you're story and stick to it!!

    It's a tad strange though, from my perspective since PBF has had less than stellar performances against Baldomir and DLH. You act as if PBF is superman who wins efforlessly and hasnt been pushed by guy's like DLH and Castillo.

    BTW, those "short arms"? They are the advantage on the inside and deliver POWERFUL body shots. If Castillo hurt Floyd's ribs?? Dont be so sure that Hatton will be totally ineffective.

    Finally?? I wont make any excuses after the fight, I NEVER DO!!! I've said PBF is the favorite and could use his skils to take a decision. What I dont see by any means?? Is the EASE with which you believe such a victory will come. If PBF wins?? I'll give him due credit and it will be the BEST WIN HE'S EVER HAD!!! I also hope that it's the beginning of righting wrong's and soldifying his legacy at 47. The winner of SSM vs Cotto, and Paul Williams await:good
     
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    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    DLH had the more powerful LH upstairs, that's it!! You are going waaaayyyyy overboard if you believe that DLH has even half the power or quality body attack:nono :nono

    Again, you're assesment is BIASED towards Floyd and you dismiss hatton's abilities outright. Hatton is no Gatti or Chico, he's far better in damn near every way.

    Like I said, Floyds the favorite, but it's not anywhere near as easy as you think it will be. Hatton will push Floyd more than ANY MAN hasyet:good
     
  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hatton didn't push JLC around. He was simply a better fighter. And PBF was coming up from 130. PBF is coming up anymore and is a larger man now than he was when he fought JLC, who was about the same size then as PBF is now.

    I am not saying you said he was weak, I am saying he isn't weak and that I don't think that Hatton will be able to push him around. And DLH was much bigger than either of these men, so he isn't a good example IMO.
     
  10. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    For all the criticism hatton recieved for "wrestling and holding" against Tszyu, I have to respectfully disagree. Hell PBF even said it was like watching the WWF. Hatton was physically stronger and was able to control the action and beat a very good champion.

    Again, I firmly believe that Hatton is the stronger fighter and PBF will not push Hatton back or control the inside. I welcome him to try, though:good
     
  11. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In all honesty, I have only seen 3 KT fights, so I have no idea how strong he is to compare him. PBF seems to hold his own, especially with his illegal elbow to the chin tactic. This fight could get real dirty real quick, since Hatton is liable to grab and push and PBF has been known to clock fighters right after breaks and before breaks.
     
  12. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    It's a very beatiful thing, that the world will find out on DEC8:happy

    Yes, it could get dirty fast and Floyd doesnt wanna start that:nono Think Judah hit the jewel's? Ricky might limit his chances of having further offspring:hey
     
  13. bigtime9

    bigtime9 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    that excites doesn't it:think
     
  14. smokey

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    Where is all this misinformation about Collazo being this massive welter? He's 5'f-ing9" (generously)! He's fought at 147 most of his career, but he's not one of the really big guys at 147 like De La Hoya was or Margarito.

    I give you that his style was all wrong for Hatton: fast hands and accurate combination punching. If he had any ring smarts, he would have stopped Hatton. He would be schooling Hatton and then just stop, wave him in, and trade on the inside. I think he was trying to show Hatton he could compete at his own game, which is fine ONCE. He kept doing it and gave Hatton the chance to win.
     
  15. smokey

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    I think Floyd is stronger and has more power than people give him credit for. Very few boxers actually physically push him around, and plenty have tried. Also he usually gets respect from his power. That was the one thing that I respected Baldomir for. He was able to eat that right hand all night long with no apparent effects. Floyd's right hand got Oscar to stop throwing the jab. If there wasn't any pop in it, then Oscar would have won the fight.

    He dropped Sharmba with a single body shot in his first foray into welter, too. Sharmba was washed up, but that still showed power. Williams took more effort to stop an even more worn version of Sharmba.