Are you directly comparing Nog to Chael? :huh Chael is the sport's biggest trash talker. His whole thing is running his mouth and saying outrageous things in order to provoke a reaction. He's the UFC's biggest troll. When he calls himself "The People's Champion" and talks about Stann being his first defence, he's selling himself and his next fight. HE doesn't even believe that ****. :-( Nog, however, is supposed to be the quiet, humble, respectful gentleman. That's fine if Nog stuttered this out in broken English immediately after the fight, with his adrenaline and emotions running high. I wouldn't have an issue with that at all. But that's not what happened. This message appeared on his website OVER A WEEK later. It was a message to his English-speaking fans, and he straight up lies to them in order to make an excuse. Any fan can watch the tape and see that he's full of ****. And it's not even talking about the neck instead of the back of the head. It's about saying that his shots were legal and that Herb Dean was wrong in warning him, which directly cost him the fight. :-( Oh, bull****. Watch the tape. He clearly hit a trapped Mir in the back of the head 3-4 times while the ref was 2 feet away. Every fighter gets warned for that, and rightly so. Yes, that's right. But Herb Dean didn't say "Don't punch him any more" or "Go for the submission now." He said, quote, "Watch the back of the head." Because Mir was trying to escape, and Nog was repeatedly hitting him on the back of the head. Nothing was stopping Nog from ad******g his position and continuing to hit Mir in a legal way. No, what he should do is just suck it up. Don't wait for a week and then post statements on your website where you straight up lie about what happened, and not only that, where you throw the best ref in the game under the bus for apparently costing you the fight, when in fact he acted appropriately and handled the situation in question very well. :-( FFS man, I don't know where you guys come from, but in Australia every 8 year old kid is taught never to blame the ref when you lose. Not even when the ref really did **** up and cost you the win. And ESPECIALLY not when the ref did nothing wrong. :bart :hat
Why the **** have you got a little blue head shaking ? :huh What Nog said was absolutely correct & he credited Mir for submitting him also, whats the problem ?
Come on, NOBODY has given Mir the credit he deserves for submitting Nog. Mir proved himself to be the better grappler and everybody is blind to the fact.
What Nog said was NOT absolutely correct. He was NOT landing legal shots, he WAS hitting Mir in the back of the head, and he was rightly warned. Just a warning by the way, Dean never interfered at all with Nog's positioning or attack. When you credit Frank Mir with the victory, and then in the same breath you complain that the referee wrongly stopped you from continuing a legal attack and that's why you immediately made the mistake that caused you to lose the fight, that is NOT crediting Mir for the submission. That is blaming the ref. Say it in the heat of the moment in the cage immediately after the fight, okay no problem. After a full week has passed, releasing a statement to your fans on your official website in which you lie about what happened and unfairly ***** about the referee's performance - that's disappointing. Not the end of the world and it doesn't ruin Nog's reputation or tarnish anything he's achieved in his career, but it's not a good quote and he shouldn't have posted it. You can acknowledge that without hating on Nog, you know. Or you could continue to just relentlessly slobber on his nuts. :-( :hat
Did Jason Miller prove himself to be a better grappler and submission artist than Kazushi Sakuraba by what happened in their fight? :think (this was Beekeeper's point on another thread, but it's relevant here as well)
You don't know a damn thing about what it takes to be a fighter and the pride they have. Nog can make all the excuses he wants. You should know better. You just a commentator you don't know nothing about MMA.
:| Bitching about the ref, you shouldn't do it. If the ref really did **** up the call and cost you the fight, you get a pass for bitching. To a certain extent. If the ref did his job well and you ***** about it in print a week later and flat out lie about what happened and in the process slander a top official's reputation, that's not on. :-( :hat
BJJ and other submission grappling is designed around your skills not eroding with age. The whole "past his prime" aspect is absolutely bull**** when factoring in where the end of the fight took place. I do BJJ and trust me, the older you get, the more experienced you get and the more dangerous you get. Nog isn't even 40 yet and is in tremendous shape so there is NO reason Mir's win should get any kind of discredit.