bigger disgrace? haye vs valuev or klitschko vs ibragimov?

DAMN you talk out of your ass.

You didn't see ANY of those fights. Liakovich was WINNING EVERY ROUND until his dumbass tried to get tough in basically the last second of the last round and got knocked out the ring.

Stop talkin. You don't know **** about boxing.

 

Well, ibragimov won those 2 fights very convincingly, wlad wasn't too agressive in this fight simply because ibragimov was dangerous boxer who'd KTFO david haye also. Ibragimov would make a prostitue out of david haye in the ring. So go sit on ur 2 litre coca cola bottle and do some sit ups watching haye-valuev fight on youtube.

 

Ibragimov is a known power puncher. Wlad pursued him and refused to sacrifice his balance at the expense of landing heavier shots against Iggy who was obviously trying to get Wlad to over-extend and be off balance for a counter shot. It was smart boxing on the part of Wlad. It got worse after he did land on Iggy and Iggy started to run for his life.

Now, Haye vs Valuev was totally different. Valuev is not a known KO artist. He was very slow. Basically, he presented David Haye with a punching bag. Yet Haye pulled an Ibragimov and ran for 12 rounds. He didn't effectively take the belt from the champion, he simply ran and threw little pot shots here and there. It was a crappy victory because Holyfield stood in the pocket when he fought Valuev and easily and much more convincingly out landed and outscored Valuev than Haye. The Haye victory over Valuev would have been the equivalent of Ibragimov getting the decision over Wladimir.

 

Haye vs Valuev by far, THE most boring heavyweight fight in history pretty much.
Also the size disadvantage is no excuse, Chagaev is the same size or smaller than Haye and beat Valuev much more convincingly.

People that keep using the Haye had no advantages excuse the simply have to admit that Chagaev is MUCH better than Haye.

 

You've never watched Ibriganov fight.

What the **** do you know about him? You're a brand new boxing fan that just got involved in the sport because you hang on Wlad's balls.

Shut the **** up.

There was nothing CONVINCING about his win against an ANCIENT Holyfield. It was pathetic. And his win against Briggs? That had to be the WORST fight I have EVER seen in my LIFE.

Even worse than Klitschko vs Ibriganov and that's saying A LOT.

And you think Ibriganov would beat Haye based on what? Him gettin his ass beat against Ray Austin?

 

No, I just think ibragimov is better in every aspect of boxing than david. Also his HW resume is better than david's.

 

You clearly dont understand **** about boxing

 

Also ibragimov would butt **** james toney in a HW fight.

 

Haye ran the whole fight from a guy with no skill or speed at all. At least Ibragimov had skills.

Valuev-Haye was so bad that you could not even score the rounds because there were so few punches thrown and landed and most of the ones Haye threw were Jabs to Valuev's chest. The only round I could score was the 12th. Didn;t have that problem with the Klitschko-Ibragimov fight where there were actually DOUBLE the punches thrown in each round.

Valuev-Haye was a complete disgrace. And Haye is going to fight the same way against Wlad too. Wait and see. I am sure the Brits will say "You didn't expect Haye to really engage with such a big guy did you" :roflatsch like they did after the Valuev fight. Like that is an excuse. This is Boxing not Ice Skating.

 

The same James Toney that EMBARASSED a good Holyfield and STOPPED HIM SEVERAL YEARS before Ibraginov scraped by an ANCIENT HOLYFIELD.

You are a stupid mother ****er.

 

James Toney's career at Heavyweight has been awful. He is the laughingstock of Boxing.

 

But it's still WAY better than Ibriganov's.

Who the **** did Ibriganov beat? Like I said, Ibriganov struggled with a FAR older Holyfield than James beat by TKO and then couldn't barely get past Ray Austin.

So what the **** are you talkin about?

 

Well, looking on holyfields weight in those 2 fights u can see he was at his best in ibragimovs fight. 211 lbs with ibragimov, when in toneys fight he was overweight (219 lbs). The final scores of ibragimov-holyfield were 118-110, 117-111 and 117-111, so how to **** did he struggle with holy? Watch the fight u idiot.

 

When toney was a HW champion of the world?
He's too much of a joke to even get a fight with kliczko so what to **** are you comparing.

 

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Toney would embarrass Sultan easily. Even now days Toney would easily school Ibramigov with his slickness.

Oh shut the **** up. Evander was ancient when Ibramigov strugled with him.

Toney destroyed Evander when Holy was top-4 heavyweight in the world.