Bigger Glass Jawed Fraud: Forrest Griffin or Keith Jardine?

I told you. You're a ****ing moron for claiming that Shamrock would own Silva on the ground when Ricardo Arona couldn't do it. You posted an Ozzy video in return. What brilliance.

And there was no attempt at reverse psychology, it was sarcasm you daft ****.

 

You did, and you were wrong, too, with both your assessment of their grappling capabilities and that shitty analogy you made about Anderson and Lawler. Anderson is leagues better than Lawler standing just like Arona is leagues better than Shamrock on the floor. It's not just that they have a different style, it's that they simply aren't as good. Arona is better than Shamrock positionally, he's got better takedowns, and he's much bigger and stronger. If an ADCC champ can't dominate a dude on the mat then Frank Shamrock isn't either.

 

#1- Tito and Hendo didn't expose anything about his guard aside from the fact that he couldn't sweep or submit from it. He never did improve that but the fact remains, he never got straight grapple ****ed by having his guard passed repeatedly.

#2- The reason catch wrestling never caught on is because it does emphasize submission over position and against skilled grapplers that isn't wise. It's the reason leglocks are a rarity in MMA and the reason why I would expect Frank to have less chance of beating Wand than Tito. He wouldn't be able to control him and he definitely wouldn't submit him.

 

Frank doesn't even have the takedown ability to put a guy like Wand with no takedown defense on the mat often enough to win that way and given Wanderlei's size advantage and cardio, I can't see him having success with wearing him out. And going for a leglock is dangerous with or without soccer kicks because all you have to do is get the joint out of the crux of the hold and they've just given you a free punching bag. See Henderson/Miller for evidence.

 

I know what catch wrestling is and I was never saying that Frank was exclusively a leglock guy like his "brother". I was saying that catch isn't really a popular art because, like leglocks, it emphasizes ripping explosive submissions at the cost of controlling the opponent and setting him up for submissions the Gracie way.

 

Tune in tonight, there are two guys on the card, Griffin and Nogueira, with Grade AAA China Chins that are going to be shattered. It'll be a helluva lot more entertaining than the last time you tried to watch MMA and saw **** Chestnar get his Glass Jaw shattered.