Bigger one punch power? Shavers vs Tyson

Shavers for all his power was a most ordinary finisher. This is because he just wasn't that good comparative to a Tyson or Louis.

 

It is an acceptable criteria, perhaps more acceptable than the subjective, biased opinion of opponents. (Why is it that boxers always claim that the guy who hit them hardest is one they beat and not one who KO'd them?) Otherwise, we devolve into the "if a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it" argument.... i.e. if a guy throws a punch but it doesn't bring about the most effective result, is it still a hard punch...

 

We could just as easily make the criterion "Who did they hit with their clean 'best' shot and not have an effect ?"

Obviously people already differ on what a "one punch KO" is (imo, it's what McCallum did to Curry), but even past that we have to admit that some fighters just don't take a shot so well, and taking a punch is very often a skill and a state of mind.

Maybe Tyson hit Tony Tucker harder than he hit Michael Spinks. That doesn't mean Spinks isn't a quality fighter.
Tyson hit Pinkon Thomas a whole series of hard punches to get Thomas down. Someone said he hit him 17 times in 15 seconds at the end, and at least half on them connected well. I reckon Thomas was a granite chinned fighter but I guess there are other ways of looking at it.

They all hit hard.

 

Gentlemen, we've been over this time and again and always reach the same conclusion: Shavers had greater single-shot power, but Tyson was the far better combination puncher and finisher.

This thread is now over. See you at the next Shavers thread.

 

Shavers did not have greater single-shot power. That is completely unsubstantiated.

 

Nothing's been substantiated. It's all opinion. Worthless mostly.
Maybe Bernardo Mercado hit harder than both of them. I don't know.

 

But the question is about their punching power, not their ability to land their best punches flush on top-notch opponents.

 

By this you mean that Tyson finished Botha and Spinks with one punch and Shavers never finished anyone as good with one punch. Thus, Tyson's finishing prowess was better by virtue of his one-punch power. Win-win.

 

"But the question is about their punching power, not their ability to land their best punches flush on top-notch opponents."

And again, we are back to the tree falling in the woods with no one to hear it. If a man throws the hardest punch in the world but it doesn't connect, is it still a hard punch?

 

Tyson's finishing prowess was better.

Ellis and Norton were as good as Botha and Spinks, let's face it.

 

The biggest one punch power question should be between Shavers and Foreman. Tyson isnt even top 5 on an all time powerlist.

 

And what if he throws the hardest punch in the world and the fighter is still standing ?

 

And how many "one punches" did Shavers land on Norton to finish him?

 

Tyson was faaar more skilled than Shavers but yet somehow Shavers still is mentioned among the greats like Ali. Obviously not as a great but he was at the top level of the sport and dangerous for everyone. Now in his lack of skill how did he manage to stay dangerous? His power. Ali even said his power was numbing. Tyson destroyed so guys because he was such a fast starter and explosive. Most guys are slow starters. How many people said Tyson hit harder than Shavers or was the hardest puncher they fought?

Shavers knocked out Norton with one punch. They weren't combinations they were hard single punches. Not fast nor timed enough to be a combination.

 

Not many really. Not head punches anyway. If you watch it he's finding it difficult to nail Norton. Shavers being sloppy as usual.

Tyson landed more than one punch on Spinks.