Bigger one punch power? Shavers vs Tyson

Ali knocked out Foreman, and Frazier couldn't. Ali stronger than Frazier 10/10 confirmed.

 

George Foreman couldn't KO Levi Forte

But 12-8 Al Ownes did.

Al Ownes punches harder than Foreman 10/10 confirmed

Case closed guys, anyone who disagrees will be relentlessly chastised.

 

That isn't what I'm saying imbecile. Try again.

I realise you're a certified moron, but try not to put words into my mouth in future. Thanks.

 

2:25 of the video.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/shane-mosley-manny-pacquiao-hits-hard/82489880/

 

lul yawn

Get a better argument yours is broken and it sucks

 

Considering you raised the comparison in the first place I find it astounding how you turn around and let the counterpoint fly completely over your head.

But like I said, why am I even arguing with you?

 

I was comparing the knockdown punches themselves. You started using record sheets to prove punching power.

Idk why you argue either. You're only good at saying insults, but then you crumble under scrutiny of debate and logic.

 

Here's what baffles me. You compare the two punches in the Holmes fights and then inexplicably have Shavers landing the heavier blow, despite the fact that both shots are virtually identical in effect, the only difference being Holmes getting stopped a few seconds later vs Tyson. So what exactly are you seeing here that favours Shavers? Break it down for me. Please.

 

When a knock down occurs the brain is momentarily shutting down the body. Memory loss is actually quite common.

Are you now saying Pacquiao hit harder than Shavers?

 

Holmes is standing still when Tyson hit him with a 2 punch combo, staggers and falls, but seems to be conscious. He throws his arms out as to grab onto Tyson to prevent his fall.

When Shavers hits him, he's in perfect shape, then wham, he goes out. He's momentarily motionless and take a second or two longer to get up. And this is a prime, healthier, younger, less damaged Holmes.

Holmes goes down instantly from Shavers blow. His body shakes more form the impact.

https://streamable.com/e922
https://streamable.com/yv6w

 

Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying.

 

There was no point in you posting the link. It isn't new information that boxers experience memory loss when getting knocked down. I take it you were attempting to imply that since Holmes was knocked down by Shavers that he doesn't remember his power?

Quit beating around the bush and get to your main points.

 

Holmes gets up about the count of four in both instances, so I fail to see how you can say he's 'out' when Shavers hits him. He looks equally hurt in both instances, staggering in the first instance and grabbing hold of the ropes and shaking his head to clear it in the second. Honestly, if asked to say which punch did greater damage without further context I wouldn't be able to answer. Know why? Cause there's no real difference between them.

"His body shakes more from the impact."

FFS

 

Every single guy who fought Foreman and Shavers said Shavers hit harder.

Holmes and Tillis who fought both, said Shavers hit harder.

Does anyone know what Sims said about Tyson and Shavers power?

 

I already said everything I wanted to say in the previous post. Humans aren't objective measuring devices. Their recollections of things can be faulty, especially when they're getting their brains rattled inside their skulls.

You'll also notice that Mosley mentions that he didn't even think the punch was that hard, yet he's knocked down and loses three rounds. Get the point of the link now?