Bigger Puncher...R. Marquez or Pacman?

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  1. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    after this fight, the right comparison should be vasquez and pac, not rafa.
     
  2. FiveStoneFists

    FiveStoneFists Member Full Member

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    Johnson was fighting above his natural weight, and there were questions if and when he could perform at Bantam. Austin was too inactive, still great wins though - he was not expected to win. They were not considered prime by the time Marquez got them, both were about two years removed from their primes.
     
  3. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Izzy is a bigger puncher than Raph....but who cares....god this was one hell of a fight.
     
  4. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So only top 10 p4p fighters are considered great fighters? That's news to me. So if you drop out of the top 10, go back in, then drop out again, without ever losing....are you still a great fighter? Since it's based on the ranking only right? Is Hatton a great fighter? He has been in and out of the p4p rankings for quite a while.
     
  5. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Amazing how the outcome of tonight's fight turns the entire forum opinion around. :lol:
     
  6. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac just toy with Vasquez in sparring.

    Vasquez TKO Rafa.

    Therefore Pac's the Harder Puncher P4P.
     
  7. Main Events

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    Tim Austin??? Did I see it right? someone dissing Tim Austin? He was not only good. He was great! To diss Marquez for KOing Austin is like dissing Pac for Koing MAB/EM. They were not in their primes but these are world class fighters.

    At this time, I'd say they are even. Pac had 1-punch KO power in the 122lbs (Sasakul, Elicier, and the undefeated Mexican who chicken danced I forgot his name). 126lbs-130, he had 1-punch KD power only :yep Let Marquez move up to 126 and I'll let you know who the harder puncher is.
     
  8. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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  9. Bangis

    Bangis Member Full Member

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    it seems to me that you havent seen PAC fight in the lower weights....
    PAC's power is definitely not overrated its just that at 130 he doesn't have that 1 punch KO power he had at the lower weights...
     
  10. retriever

    retriever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Remember though that Pac was fighting above his natural weight. id like to see if Rafa can k.o guys at 130.
     
  11. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    Rafael has heavier hands compared to Pacman. His punches may seem just normal punches, it doesnt look like he's loading up on them, but when it lands, you can actually see how hard it is.

    Pacquiao though, he hits hard, but you can see him load up on his powershots. He swings for the fences, and when it lands, youre in trouble.

    Pacman needs at least half a round of boxing to completely turn things around in his favor.

    Rafael just needs a couple of solid hits to turn the tide in his favor.

    Rafael edges Pacman on sheer 1 punch power. But it doesnt make Pacman a lesser fighter.
     
  12. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rafa fought Vasquez two times in a slugfest, Vasquez was never down.

    How many times did Pac decked Vasquez in sparring??? That is with the full head gear & Pac spars with Winning Gloves!!!

    With that kind of slugfest, do you think Vasquez can last 3 rounds with Pac???
     
  13. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    Im just saying that Rafael seems to need less effort to come up with a 1 punch powerbomb. And Manny seems to give all he's got on his punches to come up with a 1 punch KO.

    That doesnt mean Manny KOs his opponents less effectively compared to Rafael. They just differ in how they get most of their KOs.

    Marquez: more 1 punch KOs
    Pacquiao: more flurries, haymakers, accumulation stoppages TKOs
     
  14. Sister Sledge

    Sister Sledge Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  15. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    Are they confirmed info?