Bigger robbery: Whitaker D12 Chavez or Hearns D12 Leonard

All things considered, including the take of the 'losing' opponents, Whitaker's robbery was 'bigger' because Leonard has admitted that Hearns won and I don't think Chavez has admitted that Pea won.

 

Whitaker v. Chavez was the bigger robbery.

Leonard rallied in the 12rh and had Hearns badly hurt - earning a two point round and closing Hearns modest lead.

 

Neither are huge robberies in that a case can be made for the result.

But more than that, everyone considered Pea the p4p king after this fight, he was seen as the best WW fighter in the world and most consider this fight his best performance. I'd argue he wasn't robbed of anything realistically.

Hearns wanted revenge, but after this fight most considered him the number 1 SMW, Leonard himself said he feels he lost this fight.

I'd say the fighter most wronged was Hearns. He dropped Leonard twice and had a chance to set the record straight. A chance he took.

I don't consider either result a robbery but clearly I feel the wrong decision was rendered.

 

Tough one, But I personally believe the Whitaker draw was the worse. Reason being everyone seems to remember the Leonard knock downs in the 2nd fight, but conveniently forget that each time Leonard was knocked down, the very next rd Leonard came back and pummeled Hearns from pillar to post . Rd's that could've easily have been 10-8 rds including the all important last rd of the fight. If Hearns vs Leonard #2 was a 15 rd fight, Hearns don't survive in my opinion.

 

Whitaker Chavez although it was closer than I remember. It’s hard to give Chavez 6 rounds.
Hearns Leonard was close despite the two knockdowns. I had Hearns up of course I have to actually watch it again

 

Hearns vs Leonard was the bigger robbery IMO...and don’t find it particularly close

 

Depends what you mean by 'bigger'

Whitaker vs. Chavez had a much bigger impact on boxing history given that the two were at the pinnacle of the p4p lists. Chavez was perceived as now officially being on the slide and the ensuing cautious matchmaking led him into the jaws of Frankie Randall.

It also robbed Whitaker of a signature win for the ages. Even though people know this was a robbery, no matter how you slice it, there's a difference between a win and a draw.

As for which fight was more of a ripoff, that's entirely up to the viewer to decide. As someone else said, SRL rallied hard to to close the 12th round, while Chavez seemed weirdly harmless throughout that fight.

 

Hearns won the fight, but by a round (113-112), but there was little doubt Hearns edged it.

Whitaker won IMO more comfortably (I scored the fight, knowing the result, as the UK did not have it live! ), but paradoxically in comparison, there were more close rounds that you could have given the benefit of the doubt to Chavez and thus come to the conclusion it was a draw.

 

a stadium full of chavez fans, quite at the end of a chavez fight. you know who really won the fight. whitaker's robbery was the greater of the two.
yet, hearns knocking down leonard and getting a draw was a disgrace!

 

pernell's for certain

I had pernell dominating

whereas Leonard kind of evened things up by putting hearns on ***** street

 

Both big robberies ,but personally the Hit Man fight I lost a lot on that one,hahaha

 

Yep, that’s my view as well.

From an historical perspective Pea was dudded and I believe that if Leonard vs Hearns 2 had been a fifteen round fight then Tommy was in deep water. I had Hearns up by a round unlike Whitaker who I thought won pretty easily.

Cheers All.

 

I am not sure. Hearns was not that hurt in that fight. He was tired, but so was Ray. Hearns recovered well that night. Ray put his all to finish him.

 

Hearns legs were gone in the 12th rd, 3 more rds their is no debate in my opinion.