bigger threat to mayweather....ortiz or cotto

Ortiz is gonna get stopped by Mayweather man. No joke. Its going to be a massacre! The current Cotto is better than Ortiz will ever be. He has more skills and punching power and an effective jab is necessary vs floyd. Stylistically cotto has a better chance than ortiz vs floyd no doubt about it

 

Cotto has a decent jab, but his right hand is non-existent. One arm won't get it done against Mayweather. Add in his slow foot speed/lateral movement, suspect defense, and chin... and you can easily see a boxing clinic emerging in favor of Mayweather.

This guy went life and death with Ricardo Torres (exciting fight) for crying out loud. Way too open to be hit. Cotto is exciting and is much more likeable now that the hype around him has died down, but he has never been on that level.

 

Possibly but agree to disagree my friend. :thumbsup

 

He sure hit Mosley with plenty of right hands in their fight even though it was close. He also either took Mosley's right hands or defended himself against them better than Mayweather did. When Mosley hurt Cotto, he simply danced away.

 

Everybody playing into this Ortiz is big, ortiz is young and powerful. Man that means nothing. . . Cotto has skills and can land a friggin jab. . . Oh and he has more punching power. Ortiz is no pushover but come on, better than 154 Cotto? Please. . .Mosley would murder Ortiz even at this age. 147 Khan will handle Ortiz too imo.

 

The punch statistics would entirely disagree with your perception of those two fights.

Punch Stats: Total Punches: Cotto -248 of 675 (37%); Mosley - 248 of 774 (32%). Total Jabs: Cotto - 98 of 288 (34%); Mosley - 71 of 439 (16%). Power Punches: Cotto - 150 of 387 (39%); Mosley - 177 of 335 (53%).

Punches Landed / Thrown

Total:
Mayweather : 208/477 (44%)
Mosley: 92/452 (20%)

Power Punches:
Mayweather : 123/267 (46%)
Mosley : 46/169 (27%)

Jabs:
Mayweather : 85/210 (40%)
Mosley : 46/283 (16%)

Mosley landed 177 power shots on Cotto vs 46 against Mayweather. Not even close. Mosley couldn't even get off 177 power attempts vs Mayweather, let alone 177 power connects.

 

Excellent post I couldn't agree more.

 

Stylistically, the fighters who have troubled Cotto are sturdy, aggressive, pressure fighters with power. Floyd is not aggressive, nor is he a pressure fighter..if anything, he's the antithesis. He's also not a big puncher. Cotto has faired best against boxers who relied more on speed than power.

Ortiz on the other hand, has lost and struggled with an array of different styles. He's a southpaw, yet he's open for every punch in the book. So being left-handed isn't going to protect him from the onslaught.

In in my opinion, if anyone is tailor-made for Mayweather, it's Ortiz. It's simple for me imagine Floyd picking Ortiz apart like Lamont Peterson didn towards the end of their fight. But I can't imagine him transforming into a power-punching pressure fighter like Pacquiao or Margarito were when they beat Cotto.

 

Quit over exaggerating for real. Cotto was sure landing right hands vs margarito, vs mosley and vs mayorga. Plus cottos one arm is better than ortiz entire arsenal, who also has leaky defense and shakey chin (gets put down every other fight) AND poor footwork. Ortiz only advantage is quick feet and large size. Footwork and balance is still garbage.

 

Did his right hand deter Margarito? No. He walked through them.

Did his right hand deter Mosley? No. Mosley was stalking Cotto at the end of their fight.

Mayorga was already finished and washed up.

There is no exaggeration going on. Cotto has not hurt any top tier opponent with his right hand. He is a converted southpaw... just deal with the facts. I also recall him having a car accident that injured his right shoulder as well when he was younger.

Ortiz = Cotto They are both flawed, and have very similar flaws to be honest.

 

I think Cotto was a bit Better than this, but agree he was a very Limited overhyped fighter trying to be billed as the next Trinidad.

 

And yet Cotto never was stunned as bad as Mayweather so either:
1. Cotto has a better chin than Mayweather or
2. Cotto did a better job avoiding those big type of right hands that almost put Mayweather down.

 

Exactly. Ortiz is tailor made for Floyd. That boy is gonna get destroyed. Cotto would make it a close fight with his body work and jab plus his timing is great. Who knocks clottey down with a jab?? Lol same with gomez. . . Haha!

 

I'm a Virgo dude, so I tend to be overly critical at times.

I am a Cotto fan though, and always enjoy his fights. Just felt the hype was over the top, particularly when he was undefeated. Much easier to appreciate him without 1,000s of rabid fans saying his is an ATG in the making.

 

Very good rebuttal, and I would tend to agree that pressure fighters give Cotto more trouble. Pre Mosley, I would never have called Floyd a come forward fighter. But the way he brought the fight TO Mosley, and the way he was stalking Mosley, leads me to believe Floyd can be a pressure fighter when he needs to be. Could be age slowing him down and changing his style, or his ability to adapt, dunno.

While he can't punch like Pac, I think he would do the same systematic breakdown of Cotto. He has Cotto's number from the opening bell.

Ortiz on the other hand, I think it will take Floyd a couple of rounds to figure out. This is where I believe the fight is won or lost by Ortiz. If he doesn't do it early, he doesn't do it.

The question is a bigger threat, and IMHO, it's Ortiz.