Biggest age gap wins by an older heavyweight champion vs a primed heavyweight?

I'm not even sure that figure is real and Usyk has forged a career facing murderous, huge or legit punchers and much bigger giants in their backyards or on the road on a deck stacked against him and he's still doing it now in his late 30s when long past his prime years

 

We've seen Usyk be much easier to hit in the Belly fights, partly due to the style he employed but even when he wasn't walking Belly down he wasn't able to evade the shots like he used to even against a 280lbs Belly (with clothes on).

We've also seen him get tired in fight for the first time too

And for the first time we've also seen him lose like 3 rounds in a row (Belly 1), many had him losing 4, where it looked like he was actually on his way to losing the fight which many were convinced of at the time and we've never seen before

I don't recall seeing him sporting a blackeye from sparring either

He relies on speed, reaction times, reflexes, and his legs and movement all of which obviously decline with age and he'd already declined in terms of speed, reaction times and reflexes long ago and what if he needs to use his legs in this fight and move constantly, can he still do that for 12 rounds like he was in his prime? We haven't seen him have to do so in a long time

Tszyu looked great against Sharmba Mitchell in their rematch but look what happened vs Hatton in his next fight when he was in a gruelling long distance fight vs a super focussed and motivated fired up Hatton in the lion's den? Similar situation only Dubois is way bigger than Usyk and a murderous puncher vs natural HWs and giants

 

As special, dedicated and tough as Usyk is, he's a 38.5 y/o blown up CW campaigning in a division full of younger or much younger giants and massive punchers he doesn't belong in and he relies on speed, reaction times, reflexes and his legs in order to be able to succeed in doing so. All these attributes and punch resistance decline when it comes to all the other greats but according to many Usyk is somehow completely immune to any decline in those departments and the ageing process, the same people who will cite decline in all those departments for everyone of their favs and great fighter who came before him whilst they simultaneously consider Usyk inferior to them all. It's really quite bizarre.

By running the gauntlet of punchers Usyk has and is, and obviously power is magnified when you're facing opponents much or way bigger than you, he's been playing Russian roulette and he's managed to evade getting knocked out amateur and pro up until his late 30s. This is beyond extremely rare.

Then factor in the size and weight he's conceding and fighting in his opponent's backyards or on the road since he stepped up to the world level in addition to that. He's been defying a lot of things for a long time and he's doing so again in this fight. He can't keep getting away with doing so. No one can and history has proven this resoundingly.

 

No what actually happened is you posted a snarky sarcastic reply to me which you then deleted, and this is after insulting me for no reason in a thread the other day which, once again, I magnanimously let slide and forgave you for

You are a Usyk hater. I don't hate any fighter. There are fighters I hate on and I hurl rocks back over the fence during the back and forth in forum banter but not many I genuinely truly feel a strong aversion for and when I do it's totally justified, fighters who are just not likeable at all.

Hand on heart, I don't even dislike Roy a little bit. I've always found him very personable and hard to dislike

But you've literally chosen to hate on one of the most humble, likeable, respectful, honourable and fearless fighters of all time whilst you get all bent out of shape about people hating on fighters who are POS or do and say things to bring it on themselves

I don't believe you do rate Usyk or Loma. It's very clear to me you don't rate them at all and just think they're lucky to be in the era they are and they wouldn't even be a factor in stronger ones.

Stop complaining about the forum please, Adam. It's a great forum and the mods are actually leniant. If you have any complaints do so to me via PM or contact admin.

 

Even if I dislike a fighter and/or their fans I will always acknowledge their talent and skills and when I am hurling rocks, and I enjoy the forum banter, it's generally in response to the fighter or their fans hurling them or having hurled them at one of my favs or some glaring double standard.

To describe Loma as ''rubbish'' even when comparing him to the aforementioned greats perfectly illustrates my point regarding how little you think of him and his skills and talent which is obviously exceptional regardless of how high or low anyone rates him and like Usyk he's a true legacy fighter and a good guy who has is as classy outside of the ring as he is in it

You think Shakur and Crawford are better than Usyk, let alone greats from previous eras. You say you rate him highly but I'm afraid it comes across as very insincere.

You too

If you want to continue this conversation do so via PM please

 

You said of course Usyk was right when he, being his ever super humble self, said that Crawford was better than him, as if it was undeniable he was. And of course you ignore all context when you do this, extremely important context which matters big.

Like Crawford usually being the bigger or much bigger man, rarely the smaller, extremely if ever at all much smaller

Him having fought in his homeland 40 times out of 41 on a deck stacked or heavily stacked in his favour or an even one at worst occasionally

Him barely having fought any legit punchers his size, let alone ones bigger or way bigger

And his resume clearly not being as strong as Usyk's, especially when you factor in all of the above

Everything I said about Crawford here, who I do and have long considered one of the top 3 P4P fighters in the sport, and one of the top 3 most skilled fighters in the sport, is like a complete antithesis to Usyk and what he's been doing

Haney and Floyd aren't likeable at all. You can draw up a list of the bad or egregious things they've said and done and go compare it to what Usyk and Loma have. What part of that is so difficult for you to understand? Usyk and Loma are practically saints and angels in comparison. You act like a POS, many will take issue with it and dislike you

Again, the fact anyone would consider Loma ''rubbish'' or even use that word to describe a special talent like him completely proves my point

No problem. Again, if you want to continue this conversation do so via PM