In no particular order: 1. Willie Pep once won a round without throwing a punch (didnt happen) 2. Camacho became a runner after the Rosario fight (no, he was a runner when he moved up to welterweight-his fourth weight class) 3. Tyson lost to everyone who stood up to him (ruddock, tucker, holmes, there were many fighters that stood up to him and lost) 4. Lennox Lewis had a glass chin (average chin) any more...
6) A challenger has to 'take' a title away from a champion by winning rounds clearly (both fighters should be judged equally once the bell has sounded).
Tyson won his first 19 fights by knockout. It was actually 17, the Jesse Ferguson fight was originally a DQ but the NYSAC changed it to preserve the knockout streak and the hype attached to it.
I'm pretty sure I saw that round on Youtube (it doesn't appear to be there anymore) and he did go a round without throwing any punches...but whether he actually won it on the scorecards I don't know.
Boxers dont lift weights.. or its not good for boxers to lift.. In fact these days weights are such a great way of increasing physical strength that there are very few who don't actually lift any weights within thier training regime.. especially the big guys at cruiserweight and heavyweight.. Tyson, Lewis , Holyfield .. all of em..
1. Pretty sure the Pep round did happen, but I'm willing to do more research to confirm. 2. Never followed his career close enough, I'll take your word for it. 3. Tyson lost to those who stood up to him AND had skill & strength comparable to him. Ruddock, Tucker, Holmes (by '87), Bruno(1st fight) were all at a level below Mike in the skill department. Douglas (on one night he was ATG - he just never did it before or after), Holy, and Lewis were all on his level skill-wise. So, in terms of how you phrased it, you are correct. Tyson always falling apart is a myth. However, he DID fall apart when someone stood up to him AND didn't crumble/get outclassed. Not that losing to someone as tough and skilled as yourself is a dishonor. Far from it, in fact. He kept trying against all three of them. He just was beaten. Happens. 4. I agree completely. Lewis's chin is underrated. Not great, but not nearly as bad as his detractors claim. He took punches from a lot of big bangers without going down. His two losses were against big punchers (don't matter their overall talent level - they could still bang) who hit him just right. And he probably could have kept going against McCall.
TBH I was going to split hairs over Illmatics number 3, Tyson did lose every time he was asked serious questions by a skilled and determined opponent.
So he was 88 - 0, because the official result of the match was a win regardless of who decided it was a win.
Yes, I think that's more what people mean when they repeat the "Tyson-lost-when-people-stood-up-to-him" thing. Plenty of his opponents were courageous guys and tried to stand up to him, but didn't have the physical ability to present a threat to him and were just demolished or physically outclassed. When Tyson met someone who fulfilled both conditions, eg. they had the mental strength, courage and focus to deal with him psychologically and had the physical assets to challenge him, he lost every time- and this does highlight a major flaw in his career.
1. Roberto Duran TKoed Ken Buchanan - no he didn't, he landed a terrible low blow in the end of the 13th and in the blind side of the ref. 2. Sonny Liston was a monster and Floyd Patterson was a candid family man in the 60s. 3. Miss Desiree Washington had non consentual sex with Mike Tyson.