biggest bully champion that ever existed..

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  1. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stanley Ketchel has to be up there
     
    johnmaff36, Jan 30, 2011
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  2. Johnstown

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    well it was in a body building mag...i thought tyson threw shots and stopped them short of his face..but i might be wrong...read it like 15 years ago in a body building mag.
     
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  3. Johnstown

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    he bitched out about stepping into the cellar though didnt he...classic bully move
     
    Johnstown, Jan 30, 2011
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  4. Johnstown

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    my definition of a bully is someone who is tough and hard and uses fear and intimadation...but also folds when he meets someone harder then himself.
     
    Johnstown, Jan 30, 2011
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  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's my definition too...so that eliminates Ali, Foreman, Monzon, Galindez and Bonavena.
     
    red cobra, Jan 31, 2011
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  6. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Former Liston and Frazier corner man Milt Bailey came right out on camera at the conclusion of a panel review of Manila years after the fact to say that a major difference between the two was that "Liston was a bully, while Frazier was a bulldog." This from an insider with ample context to draw from.
     
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  7. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bully : " Habitually CRUEL to weaker or lesser opponents " [ Websters D ].
    Well who does this most accurately describe ? U got it ! Ali, by a landslide.
     
    burt bienstock, Jan 31, 2011
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  8. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He dropped Evander, Mike Tyson couldn't do it.
     
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  9. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

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    Mini Madman-Mike folded VS Doug, Evan And Lenny. :thumbsup
     
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  10. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    James Toney seems to be a chronic ***** outside of the ring.

    And I know this'll be a surprise, but if Muhammad Ali didn't like you, no one was a worse bully...
     
    Vince Voltage, Jan 31, 2011
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  11. Bollox

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    Jeff Fenech both in and outside of the ring
     
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  12. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    Mike tyson.
     
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  13. amhlilhaus

    amhlilhaus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lol just won't let it go, won't let it go.
     
    amhlilhaus, Feb 1, 2011
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  14. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That is weighty indeed.

    Liston was also inordinately cruel to his trainer Willie Reddish -abusive even. This was noted at his training camp at White Cliffs, Plymouth. Then again, he was also considered very kind at times to those who knew him. Liston got down to about 205 before the originally scheduled rematch against Ali and that may have been some cause for meanness.

    All of us are complicated creatures. This is why I for one don't like sticking people we've never met in a pigeon hole, though we all do it every day both here and out there.
     
    Stonehands89, Feb 1, 2011
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  15. ThinBlack

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    I'm going with a young Tyson and Sonny Liston.Also, Roberto Duran and Jake LaMotta.
     
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