biggest cherrypicker of this generation??

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  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :patsch Do you just make **** up pit? No one really gave a damn about his fight w/ Baldomir..yet you're acting like he was forced to fight him by the networks. And tghe PUBLIC wanted this fight? How the **** does the public demand a fight between one champ they've never heard of, and a contender who was a HUIGE favorite over him? :patsch

    You're just like one of my buddies who hears somthing, then forms his own idea of how it came about, thinking he's right.

    And WTF does a fight w/ Margarito have to do with future fights...like....NOTHING? I guess the idea of NEGOTIATING for those future fights was comepletly out of the question huh?
     
  2. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    this has got to be one of the lamest excuses Fraud Groupies have ever put forth . . . amongst a litany of lame excuses.
     
  3. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You could label Whitaker as a cherrypicker, I mean he fought Oscar and Tito at the tailend of his career. From 1985-1996, he faced 2 greats. His resume is very good, but his overall ranking is based on head to head ability. I dont even think hes top 20 all time based on resume.
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    And yet he and Eze post that quite often. To reiterate...FLoyd would not fight Fighter A, because his promoter would not guarantee $XXXXX.XX to fight Fighter B & C, which would STILL likely be a year and ahalf to 2 years away. :roll:
     
  5. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :patsch That's the opposite of cherrypicking, taking on two, young and dangerous fighters... and the least terrible part of your post.
     
  6. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    oh jezzz hear we go again playing stupid again huh lance ..

    Are you ****ing kidding me lance !?!?! please say that you are because I can't believer your going act like Brian Kenny didn't drill floyd about not fight Baldi after Baldi beat Zab .. but again what should I expect from you anyway .. you talk allot of **** but stand for nothing ..


    I hear some thing and form my own Ideas :patsch

    Jezz dude

    How am I forming my own opinion when the quote came from Arum himself!!? not me but Arum ..

    Quote from Arum .. " Floyd would have taken the fight for 8 mill if would have thrown in Cotto and Hatton for 8 mill , but stated he was willing ...

    What idea am I taking from that you fool.. the quote is straight paper there nothing else to add .. So what have I added !?!? I don't have to add **** ... it is what it is man .. back the **** up
     
  7. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Last I looked....Brian Kenny did NOT represent all the networks nor all the fans. Just himself. You're a fanboy who'll take any piece of information and make what you want of it. WHy did you say HBO or ESPN or the PUBLIC demanded it and only come back with Brian ****in Kenny's rant?:patsch


    What does fighting Margarito have to do with eventually Cotto or Hatton again? NOTHING, plain and simple.

    It's a convenient way to NOT fight someone, and place the blame elsewhere. In this case Arum and money issues.

    He SIMPLY could have fought MArgarito, and then worked on negotiating those other AFTER. It's kinda stupid to worry about future fights before your next fight is done anyway. But I guess that's too crazy an idea right?
     
  8. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    exactly, what if fighter A or B loses in the interim and the money is simply not there for the matchup??? Arum still has to pay Fraud that amount anyway! :patsch


    What if fighter A or B's promoter makes absurd demands, Arum must meet them no matter how absurd or get sued by Fraud for breach of contract.

    This is clearly simply a way for Fraud to punk out of a real challenge, anyone with a brain can see it.
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    When common sense and the fact that **** can happen in boxing, why worry about two fight NOT EVEN SIGNED and what they may pay when there's a CAREER HIGH PAYDAY staring right in front. ****in Mayweather apoligists....can't even do that right.
     
  10. dave82

    dave82 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    WTF?? :patsch
     
  11. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mr twister tring to call the kettle black ..
    Dude you don't know what the **** your talking HBO , Brian Kenny and the rest of the boxing credits ragged floyd for not fighting Baldi .. are you denying that happen ?? Floyd caught al kind of flack for fighting Zab and not the True Welter weight Champion Baldi . Are you saying that didn't ....YES or NO




    yeah it dame right stupid, because it the fighter responsibility to look after his own best interest not the promoters and Arum has done business like that in the past with fighter and does it now .. so why should it be different with floyd ?


    Im a floyd boy :patsch not as much as your a floyd hater .. The fact still remains that Arum himself stated that Floyd WOULD HAVE not MIGHT but WOULD HAVE taken the 8 mill to fight Margarito if he and Floyd would have come to agreement on future fights with Cotto and Hatton .. After all they are the fights Fans want to see any way right According to you and the rest of the Floyd haters right..??? So the statement had to mean SOMETHING or ELSE he wouldn't have said it in the first place..

    so how in the **** can that not mean anything lance ??!!?! anyone that ignores that statement is just being ****ing stupid .. you want to nit pick about everything else but lever this detail out ?!?!?

    So fact only mean something when it fit your agenda right ???? :roll:

    how is it stupid to worry about future fights ? who to say if he wins Arum will even make the fight or if he does he's only willing to pay 7 mill

    so are you saying that statement meant nothing ?? Id like to hear why . .
     
  12. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Now looks who twisting **** ..

    Floyd would only be guaranteed 10 mill for cotto and Hatton only if he beat Margartio you goof ball I don't know how many time I have to tell you that.. but Arum was not willing to negotiate that deal so floyd bought his contract out and went forward with the Oscar negotiations..

    you dumb **** Arum had already written the contract for 7 mill for Cotto and Hatton , Arum did that not Floyd ..
     
  13. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Career high payday dude palese

    anyone following this soap opera, who has common since knows that floyd had choices and Oscar being one of them ..

    and clearly Arum was in agreement with future fights if was only willing to pay Floyd 7 million in stead of the 10 mill floyd was asking for, keep in mind it was Arum who wrote in the prices for future fights not floyd ..
     
  14. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The DICK HEAD that started this thread knows nothing and i mean nothing of boxing.

    Here are some stats on how can any of these fighters be Cherry Pickers

    Kostya Tszyu
    Record of Oppenents Overall
    His oppisition had a combine total of
    1107 Wins
    132 Loses
    28 Draws

    He was avioded more than the Plague at 140.
    He fought 13 of his 18 Title Fights not in his Home Country.

    Floyd Mayweather
    Record of Opponents Overall
    1008 Wins
    180 Loses
    35 Draws

    Jermaine Taylor
    Opponents Record Overall

    670 Wins
    108 Loses
    26 Draws

    Joe Calzaghe
    Opponents Record Overall

    983 Wins
    289 Loses
    24 Draws

    Now to me none of those guys look like they Cherry Picked at all
    A Cherry Picker would be some one like say this.


    Ricky Hatton
    978 Wins
    392 Loses
    62 Draws

    His Best Wins against
    Tszyu 36 Years Old
    Castillo 34 Years Old
    Other Wins
    Pep 36 Years Old
    Pendleton 38 Years Old
    Magee 31 Years Old
    Phillips 40 Years Old
    Tackie 31 Years Old
    Oliveira 36 Years Old
    Maussa 34 Years Old
    Collazo 26 Years Old
    Urango 25 Years Old
    Mayweather 31 Years Old

    Thats what i call Cherry Picking. Not Fighting a Ranked Fighter until your 30 Fight or so.
     
  15. Sedona

    Sedona Active Member Full Member

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    Kostya's 14th professional fight was against Jake the Snake, for the IBF SuperLight Belt.