Biggest fraud in sports history

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  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    This. And they didn't have cancer.
     
  2. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Depends what they meant. His boxing career rightly was not fraudulent, it was truly historic in boxing terms. But the image he portrayed outside the ring? Maybe the good lord has a point...
     
  3. Johnstown

    Johnstown Boxing Addict banned

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    i am tempted to say primo carnera because he did have "real fixed" fights..yet...i think its a bit unfair to him because it plays into the idea that all his wins were fake..and i dont think they were.i think he actually learned to box some..he had a pretty good jab and could move decent for such a huge man.
     
  4. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His corner must have bribed so many referees not to stop so many of his fights. He almost got battered several times !! :lol:
     
  5. Son of Gaul

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    Please explain.
     
  6. The Spider

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    Armstrong wins the 'distinction' hands down.
     
  7. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    I've read an article about fighters taking dives, foreman (second career) and Butterbean were mentioned in it.
     
  8. The Spider

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    If someone wrote it, it must be true :rasta
     
  9. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i am not willing to call anyone's career a fraud.

    very few champioship bouts have been proven fixed(as far as i know)

    spanish paralympic basketball is the winner for me. (i forgot the year but they were mostly not actually disabled)

    honourable mentions: 1919 world series, prosecuted serie b players, too many atp/wta 500 matches,

    i am not saying boxing (or cycling) is/was clean, but it gets an unfairly bad rap compared to other sports
     
  10. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Absolutely spot on!

    And in the words of senor pepe: Source???? I don't need no stinkin' source!
     
  11. jdempsey85

    jdempsey85 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The russian fencer in the 76 olympics Boris Onishchenko,quite ingenious until he got caught.

    As for boxers clay
     
  12. BillB

    BillB Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I believe that about Butterbean.

    His KOs look fake. He lunges forward and touches the opponent with a glove and he goes down for the count.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJT99suKerg[/ame]
     
  13. Unforgiven

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    Of course there are a lot of "dives" in boxing, but it's the guys who are doing the dives that are the fakes.
    With a guy like Butterbean, the people who pay to see him just want to see a freak show so it's not really a fraud. They get entertained and go home happy. It's showbidniz. Proper fans know his record was meaningless.
    Certainly no one mistook him for an ATG.
     
  14. kingfisher3

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    i dunno bout that from the video, most of those look legit, they aint good fighters and they are getting hit by a 300lb man with suprisingly(to me) quick hands
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    The KOs on the Butterbean video look legit to me, but he did probably had a few guys take dives too. They wouldn't necessarily make it to a career highlights video.

    Brian Nielsen - again, not an ATG - had some very suspicious wins.