biggest hype job last 20 years ?

Should have fought them in his prime lol instead of a canned up shell , still asking for more:? Sound about right

 

Deontay Wilder floored the undefeated Tyson Fury twice and successfully defended his WBC title for the eighth time against Fury (who entered the year the Ring champ and was the most active ranked heavyweight in 2018).

And a successful title defense (number eight no less) is a win. (It sure as hell isn't a loss.)

Fury didn't walk out of the ring with anything that night except a battered and bruised face. He even admitted he was out on the way down.

Wilder entered the ring the champion in his first fight with Fury, walked out the champ, made two more successful defenses as champ after that, before agreeing to put his title on the line a second time and fight Fury again in his 11th defense.

Honestly, until Usyk successfully defended his belts against Fury in their first fight earlier this year ... and Fury was not remotely as good in 2024 as he was when he faced Wilder in 2018 (you can watch the video) ...

But until Usyk did that earlier this year, nobody had accomplished anything bigger at heavy in this era, among these guys.

Nobody.

And if the fighters were flipped and it was Joshua who floored a 29/30-year-old, fit, undefeated Fury twice and successfully defended his title against him ... nobody on here would be holding up Joshua's wins over Alexander Povetkin or Joseph Parker as a BIGGER DEAL.

Joshua included. Especially if Joshua went on - after flooring Fury twice and successfully defending against him - to make a couple more successful defenses before agreeing to defend against Fury again.

It's ludicrous.

You can argue Joshua STILL has not accomplished anything bigger ... and may never at this point.

 

Errol Spence..

 

Yes Wilder floored Fury but Fury was probably 60% if we're generous, heck cruiserweights and Cameroonian wrestlers knock Fury down it's no big deal. Apart from that you're failing to mention the level of opposition Wilder was beating in his defences. Who has Wilder ko'd that anybody in the current top 10 wouldn't likely ko? If your knocking out mediocre opposition and people are saying he's the hardest puncher in history for doing so then I'm sorry but that's a hype job. The biggest in the last 20 years? I don't know that's opinion coming in to play.

 

If Fury was 60 percent against Wilder in December 2018, the older, fatter, less active Fury was 30 percent against Usyk this year.

Fury fought three times in 2018, the Wilder fight being the last.

The much older Fury fought once in a year and a half before the Usyk fight this year, and in that one outing he appeared to lose to a guy who was having his pro debut.

Fury wasn't better against Usyk. The undefeated 29/30-year-old fit Fury looked like a prime Cassius Clay against Wilder in 2018 compared to the Fury who fought Usyk this year.

And Wilder floored Fury twice in 2018 ... Usyk could only do it once against a much worse version of Fury.

Usyk would've lost against the 2018 Fury ... who Wilder successfully defended against.

Every fighter is better at 29/30 than they are at 35/36. Fury certainly was.

And Joshua AND Usyk will never face a better version of Fury than the one Deontay Wilder successfully defended against.

 

What if we all pretend a draw which the majority of boxing observers thought Fury won clean, is in fact, not only not a draw, but is actually a win for Wilder?
Do you see... do you see...!!!

 

There's nothing to pretend.

In 2018, Wilder floored a younger, fit, active and undefeated Tyson Fury twice and successfully defended his title for the eighth time that night.

Successfully being the key word there.

Deontay would defend his title successfully two more times after that. He lost nothing that night.

Fury left the ring with a battered face, no belt and went back to fighting guys like Tom Schwartz on ESPN.

Truth is, if Joshua floored Fury twice in 2018 and successfully defended against him, it would've been the highlight of his career.

Because Joshua never successfully defended anything against anyone as good as the 29/30 year-old fit, active Fury ... who Wilder successfully defended against.

And Joshua never will.

 

Your sophistry is amusing: "In 2018, Wilder floored a younger, fit, active and undefeated Tyson Fury"
Enjoy your land of make-believe

 

Usyk is far better than Wilder was.

 

Charlie zellenoff

 

Haha..remember when he was a fighter with the trailer Park series..

 

Put some respect on John McDermotts name wilder fans

 

We could've found out as early as the 2008 Olympics. Both competed in the same division. They would've met in the semifinals, but Usyk lost in the quarterfinals while Wilder advanced and was waiting there for him.

 

Clemente Russo beat both in a week haha.
Would have been a good pro.

 

Jorge Kahwagi....