Biggest mismatches you can make between ATGs

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  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thomas Hearns vs. Roberto Duran and Pipino Cuevas got me thinking.

    If those guys had never fought, I’d imagine a reasonable number of posters here would have favored Roberto and Pipino in a fantasy matchup with Hearns … or at least given them reasonable chances.

    We saw those fights unfold, however, and neither really stood a chance.

    But what if we TRIED to make mismatches in fantasy matchups between ATGs? How would we do, and where would we start?

    Some ground rules: They need to have actually competed, and at a high level, in the same division. Don’t put Iran Barkley (I guess we can debate if he meets the ATG standard) in a heavyweight fight against Mike Tyson, even though Iran did actually fight at heavyweight at his well-past-it stage.

    And let’s not use terrible versions of great fighters — like Ali of Holmes or Duran of Joppy (if we want a middleweight Duran, let’s make it the Hagler or Barkley edition) — because where’s the fun in that? Give us good version of Ezzard Charles or Ray Robinson if we go there, not the ones that hung on too long.

    Finally, let’s try to keep the matchups within a reasonable range of evolution — yes, Jim Corbett was a fine heavyweight of his day but I’m not sure we need to see Mike Tyson-Henry Tillman II with the Gentleman playing the role of Tillman. So if you want to use someone of more ancient vintage, try to keep him against someone who’s closer to his own time … not just a mismatch because the sport long ago passed his way of fighting.

    So there’s the challenge. I’ll need to think on it myself, but in the meantime don’t wait for me — protect yourselves at all times and come out posting!
     
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  2. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    Off the top of my head I would guess Patterson vs Foreman
     
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  3. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Marciano Vs. Lewis
     
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  4. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    Conn versus Liston, Holmes or Foreman

    Edit. I just realized Conn is not exactly an ATG, but sure he is a worthwhile contender.
     
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  5. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    RJJ vs Toney
     
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  6. Vic The Gambler

    Vic The Gambler Active Member Full Member

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    I think Hearns v Pacquiao at Welter may fit the bill.
     
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  7. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    You beat me to it!
     
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  8. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    He is an all time great, but not at Heavyweight.
     
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  9. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Marciano vs. Patterson

    Armstrong versus Mancini and versus practically every other Lightweight Hall of Famer except Duran and Arguello. At Lightweight, Duran was a better champion.

    I was tempted to say Chavez vs Gomez at Junior Lightweight but Gomez was not near his best by then. At super bantamweight it would have likely been a mismatch too but the other way around. Gomez was just a monster and Chavez was way too young for him at 122. So Im gonna pretty much stay away from that except for what I just said.

    Salvador Sanchez vs Barry McGuigan at 126.

    Jose Napoles vs Pipino Cuevas and Carlos Palomino at 147, minus maybe for the lucky Cuevas punch.
     
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  10. Frankus

    Frankus Active Member Full Member

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    Or Patterson v Liston…
     
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  11. CharlieFirpo85

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    Foreman vs. every swarmer in HW history.
    Ali vs. Louis
    Tyson vs. Patterson
     
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  12. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Conn could literally beat all three of those guys on the right night. How exactly is that a mismatch let alone the biggest?
     
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    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    What’s a swarmer?
     
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  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I highly disagree with this pick. Patterson has a fairly good chance of pulling off the upset. Hell if he had a better chin, I'd flat out favor him.
     
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  15. BCS8

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    Patterson's speed would bother anybody near his weight. I fancy Marciano to catch up to him late but you never know
     
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