Biggest slaughter that an inferior heavyweight would inflict on an ATG?

Well said.

 

Like he did against the best he faced? Or maybe Louis would get stopped by Benntt as well?

Don't embarass yourself more than you did in Louis vs Morrison thread.

 

What is well said in this post? Do you agree that Louis was a slow starter? Then you are simply dumb, I can't find any word for that.

 

Lionel Butler highlight reel ko Ken Norton.

 

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My vote is for Sanders / Klitschko. Even though I'm a huge Sanders fan, his resume is far inferior to Wlad's and also given his age, it was quite unlikely for anybody to bet on him winning this. Luckily he managed to pull it together for this fight, came in focused and ready to rumble. I think that Wlad simply didn't see his fast southpaw punches coming in time.

 

Michael Bentt wrecked Morrison

 

LMAO best joke Ive heard in quite a while.

 

Joe Frazier would struggle with so many. Speaking of Ruddock…

 

Sam Peter would knock out Joe Louis. In fact many durable (or not so durable) big hitting HWs with limited skills would chin Louis.

Frazier would also be very vulnerable.

Tua or Ibeabuchi would chin many of Classic's favorite HWs.

 

Tokyo Douglas would really put a beating on Larry Holmes.

 

I'm curious as well.

 

I dunno. Sanders also gave Vitali a hell of a fight especially in the early rounds and he has pretty solid career stats overall so maybe he shouldn’t be seen as being that inferior or average heavyweight when compared to Wlad?

 

Douglas was about as good as a big man could be on that night. Not only that - he had absolutely no quit in him. On that night, when he was knocked down, he got up and went on the attack. Douglas was on a mission as opposed to Holmes who fought more for money than glory.

Mentally - Douglas would surpass Holmes. +1 Buster

Physically - Buster was taller, heavier, and had longer reach. He also was incredibly fluid with his combos and hit harder than Holmes. +1 Buster.

Jab - Holmes obviously had a great jab, and he used it to control distance and it was a set up for his other punches. Generally he would follow with 1 or 2 more punches. Buster has a reach advantage, and hit with power as opposed to the more slicing jab of Holmes. He also followed up with more power combinations than Holmes. Slight advantage to Holmes +.5

Combinations - We already went over. Holmes more pinpoint in smaller combinations, and Buster hitting with more power and throwing a bit more. Slight advantage Buster +.5

Power. Both are strong, but Buster put real wallop onto his punches. +1 Buster

Speed - Holmes was a little quicker, but not by a large margin. .5 Holmes

Ring Generalship - Holmes was a better mover, and could get in and out faster. He could pick his moments to engage against most other opponents. But, he would find that Buster would answer him at every turn, and move in on him and then match his attack. With Buster having the size and reach advantage Larry will quickly lose the initiative. That said +1 Holmes ( early)

Chin - Both had good chins, with Holmes perhaps having the advantage when adding in his amazing recuperative powers. +1 Holmes

Defense - Larry had a tendency to drop his hands to his sides, Buster did not have those lapses and he also the bigger man with longer reach. Both are pretty good controlling the distance. But Buster has the advantages. +.5 Buster

As this goes, Larry is a professional and will use his movement and jab to try to control the range and tempo. His is crafty enough to have it his way for the first two rounds. But , Buster is answering with his own work. Not rushing in, but using his reach to land his counter shots and jabs until he starts to hem Holmes in.

The middle of the fight is a switching of tides, with Holmes coming on like the champion he is at times , and Douglas responding with ripping combinations that would buckle most fighters. Holmes is tough, and recuperates quickly from these blows- he even lands a right counter to drop Douglas for a flash Knockdown. But, Douglas comes out more determined than ever and starts throwing more and more blows seeming not to tire. This fight is really like being between an irresistible force and an immovable object.

It is after found 8 that the heavier hitting Buster starts to wilt the great champion. Larry is fighting on heart and instinct and using his recuperative ability to take the blows, and fight back. His face is swelling and eyes are closing. But he fights on - as that cup of energy he dips into keeps losing a little more than he can recuperate each round.

By round 11 it is a slow moving Holmes, exhausted, with his hands at his side trying to roll with yet another vicious powerful combination that eventually starts moving him toward the canvas. The ref is watching closely and mercifully stops the destruction by waving the fight off with 20 seconds to go.


Holmes struggled with Norton. Cooney would have also given Holmes a much better fight had he had the mentality and fluidity of Douglas. I kind of see Douglas as a mixture of Norton and Cooney with a little mix of Riddick Bowe. Tokyo Douglas was a near perfect fighter.

Holmes would take a vicious beating thorough the match. All of his skills and ability make this a prolonged beating. In the end, Holmes will look like he was hit by a truck. Douglas will near have to kill him to stop him, but he would kill him if the sport did not have referees to end it before tragedy.

Douglas KO 11 in a competitive slaughter.