Biggest upsets in 2017 boxing.

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Correct, for odds expressed "American style" you just divide by a hundred to get the per dollar value.
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Upsets I called
    Sor Rungviasi-Gonzalez
    Roman-Kubo
    Horn-Pacquiao
    Sor Rungviasi-Gonzalez II
    Ogawa-Farmer
    Berchelt-Vargas
    Kuga-Ishimoto
    Rios-Maderna

    Picked the upset... but buckled at the last minute fearing a Robbery.
    Garcia-Real
    Zhakiyanov-Warren

    Was damn close to picking upset, but chose to play it safe.
    Kimura-Shiming
    Ali-Cotto
    Castellanos-Gamboa
    Hooper-Salamov
    Abell-Zimnoch
    Mimoune-Eggington

    Genuinely Shocked by.
    Truax-DeGale
    Dimitrenko-Granat
    Aleem-Khytrov
    Cook-Butler
    James-Chaves
    Bellew-Haye

    Not upsets, but robberies.
    Claggett-Ulysse Jr.
    Evans-Rosa
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Dimitrenko getting trounced should never be a shock, he sucks.

    (then again, Granat doesn't exactly pass the eye test himself. They both suck..)
     
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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    So to put that in perspective, Lamont Peterson is a +1150 underdog, the same that Robinson Castellanos was facing Yuriorkis Gamboa. So right off the bat, Peterson could match the #7 biggest numerical upset of 2017, as early as January 27th. Pimp move if he could pull it off.
     
  5. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    That’s because most people who know boxing do not count that as a win for Horn as he was clearly beaten by Pacquiao.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

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    You do understand that that isn't why, and has nothing to do with where he is ranked numerically on the list, right?
     
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  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    When you stop and think about it, strip away the name Paulie Malignaggi (and while he still had name value, he wasn't really all that valuable a win qualitatively at that point as he was shot to bits and hadn't produced much world class form since his last-hurrah stint in 2013, in the Broner and Judah fights) and there is nothing on Eggington's resume compared with Mimoune's to have suggested the latter should be +850. Mimoune had 2 losses, one a SD, to reasonable competition, Euro prospects, no less reasonable than Johnny Coyle or Dale Evans to be certain. The best h2h fighter between their records was Skeete, to whom Eggington lost. The second or third best actual win for Eggington (in reality that is, recognizing that Malignaggi by then was pretty worthless), after Gavin and maybe Vassell, is Ceferino Rodríguez - and guess what?? Mimoune actually low-key has a shutout victory over then-unbeaten Rodríguez two full years before Eggington got to him!
     
  8. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Funniest thing is, I actually know so many MMA casual fools who genuinely would tell you this in a serious way. Actually have a friend who was calling me stupid for saying McGregor had no chance. Most enfuriating thing ever.
     
  9. PaddyGarcia

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    Only takes one punch doe
    Dat straight left doe

    I hated that fight but on reflection it's been one of the greatest things to ever happen. You can troll these Connor spastics so easily. I'd love him to fight Pac and get his head absolutely pinged around the ring
     
  10. GlaukosTheHammer

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    That's quite interesting. Help me out a bit as I'm not much of a gambler. Are odds an international thing? Like the +500 Horn over Pac you point out, is it safe to assume +500 would have been Horn's odds universally or is it a regional thing?
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Globalization, baby. Different websites might fluctuate a little from one another but the odds are mostly going to be in the same general ballpark (sorry, regional sports colloquialism there :D - same general neighborhood)
     
  12. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks bud.

    So if Conor had beaten Floyd that would not have even made the list, by anyone's measure. The bottom is a six-way tie at +300 and Conor was +250 I think. I wonder why he got such good odds. I mean I didn't think Horn would beat Pac, but I certainly gave him more chance than I did Conor over Floyd. What metric gave Conor so much better odds and do you think it reflects the truth? Did Conor have more of a chance to beat Floyd than Horn did Pac on paper?

    I didn't watch the Degale fight myself, worth watching?
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Probably because he's a prime athlete (despite being in a different combat sport) while Mayweather was considered very old and unlikely to have another return to form after yet another extended layoff in him. Not to mention that McGregor is a much bigger man and until Diaz exposed him was considered this supremely dangerous juggernaut and force of destruction. The hype manufactured around him was, by design, an echo of the buzz around prime Mike Tyson...and even after he was proven mortal some of his mystique remained (even among the normally level-headed pro handicappers, it seems)
     
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  14. Boxing Prospect

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    Worth noting that Roman was favoured over Kubo in the UK, and the fight was a 50-50 with book makers in Poland, showing that the odds can change dramatically from country to country
     
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  15. Chuck Norris

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    I wasn't shocked though. :D