Biggest Weight Gain From Weigh In

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  1. Hank1974

    Hank1974 New Member Full Member

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    Could not agree more and Alvarez is one of the worst to exploit this loophole in recent years.
    There were reports that he weighed close to 185 for his bout against Golovkin.

    The sport, which I love, has become less about skill and more about who can gain the most between weigh-in to fight night.

    Does anyone truly believe that Canelo is as successful if he wasn't able to walk in to the ring as a LT Heavyweight when he was competing as a JR Middleweight?!?!

    I respectfully disagree.
    I think it'll make it far more entertaining.
    Why? Because as it stands now, 99% of fights are lopsided tilts.
    Fights are always where one fighter is heavily favoured over someone else; beit a bout between an overmatched opponent, or an older fighter who's past their prime.
    You rarely get bouts where both fighters are at their peak and in their primes.
    Why else did Alvarez weight 2+ years to fight Golvokin? Or Mayweather fighting Pacquio 5 years too late?
    And now you add obvious weight advantages too?
    It's akin to PED abuse, IMO and it needs to be eliminated from the sport.
    Not only is it an unfair advantage but it's unsafe as well.
    As previously mentioned, Joey Gamache could have been killed.

    IMO, if you force guys to weigh-in at their natural weight, you get fighters competing on the same level.
    No more arbitrary advantages because a younger fighter, like Alvarez, is still able to gain so much weight in 24-hours without hurting them (they will certainly pay for this yo-yo tactic when they get older and their bodies break down from the massive weight losses and subsequent gains).

    I would love it if boxing went back to its original 8-division scheme (+ Cruiserweight) and forced guys to weigh-in 2 hours before the bout.
    I'd be okay with providing a slight cushion, based on a sliding scale - depending on the division - which allowed a fighter an extra 1-5 lbs.
    EG. Flyweight = 1 extra lb, Welterwieght = 3 extra lbs, Cruiserweight = 5 extra lbs.
     
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  2. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    One of the clowns here insisted that Danny Jacobs was 230 lbs. when he fought GGG. I wish I had saved that thread, it was a classic.
     
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  3. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And you know this how, Sherlock?
     
  4. slender4

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    Golovkin was, I would guess, at least 175. He was 169 at 8am before the Jacobs fight, and he had to watch his weight in that one for the IBF second-day weigh in. I wouldn't use him as an example.

    I think the biggest weight discrepancy I've seen was Zurdo Ramierez fighting that Ghanaian guy a few weeks back. Looked like a middleweight vs. a cruiser. I think Ramierez was 190 in the ring.
     
  5. BoboFett

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    Is that correct?
     
  6. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jacobs was something like 180lb vs GGG
     
  7. jyeahfosho

    jyeahfosho mrtechnicalboxer Full Member

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    Conor Mcgregor going from 153 to a big 170lbs+ irish gorilla
     
  8. J Jones

    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I wish I could hit the like button 100 times!
     
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  9. J Jones

    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Stepping onto my soapbox...

    I never cared for Gatti. He lost twice to Ivan Robinson, got stopped by Angel Manfredy, and never won any HOF worthy fights. I’m sorry, but a trilogy with Micky Ward is not HOF material, even if it was shown in HBO.

    No doubt Ward was an honest fighter and true professional, but he too is overrated, especially by Hollywood’s biggest rac!$t (Mark Wahlburg). If Micky Ward wasn’t from Boston, only diehard fans would know who he is.

    Stepping down off soapbox.
     
  10. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are reports Dustin Nichols actually weighed 530 lbs after rehydrating and getting his prefight feeding before his tangle with Wilder .

    I'm glad because he would've been too week to compete if he was weekend by his dehydrated and famished 390 lbs
     
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  11. J Jones

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    I saw Segura up close at the Stub Hub Center, Carson, CA, and was shocked at how big he was. I commented to my wife that he fights and 112 and she couldn’t believe it either.
     
  12. J Jones

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    I agree with everything you said, except for the cushion as it will become a loophole. If WWs get 3 pounds, 99% of them will weigh in above 147.
     
  13. Serge

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    Daniel Geale weighed in at 157 but stepped on HBO's scales on the night at 183 (for the fight against Melon Head Miguel). Apparently he weighed in with his clothes on though.
     
  14. Robney

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    McClellan with same day weigh-in, 160 to 185.
    And only Zeus knows how much Jones gained in his infamous fight against Lebedev.
     
  15. Thread Stealer

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    I think PAC went from 129 to 145 overnight for that fight. It was his last one at 130.