Billy Conn

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  1. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have read many times that the KO was more than a myth and like a brillant mind already said in this thread, those were the times where a challenger would come at the champ' to grab his belt.
     
  2. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe Louis would of stretched Foster
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think it's because Foster didn't get on the backfoot and move like some others have done. People say he couldn't really do it at HW but his only real prime losses are Ali and Frazier and he had some success with his jab against Ali
     
  4. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    The more I think of Conn I'm convinced that he's up in the elite with Tunney and Charles..maybe even the best. I used to think if he could come so close vs Louis then, what lightheavy did he even have to worry about..then I thought maybe that was a little simplistic...now I'm thinking that makes sense. Conn was exemplified the 40's spirit..the WW2 era champion to the hilt..with confidence and guts to go with all that crazy skill.
     
  5. Conn

    Conn Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    conn was a complete fighter. the only think he lacked was devastating power. but he had the rest - he could box and move on the outside, he could fight skillfully on the inside, he wasnt afraid to rough his man up. he knew all the tricks. and he could take a punch and had a ton of heart
    hes one of the greatest fighters ever
     
  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Guts, skills, attitude..Conn was the complete package. The real real deal.
     
  7. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even regardless of how well he fared against Louis, you want to check out how many solid, accurate, sickening punches it took for Louis to drop him. One tough hombre
     
  8. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Conn beat something like 10 former and future world champions on his way up to the Lt.Heavy crown...then he almost beats Joe Louis in 1941...in his prime he was one of the best pure boxers of all time...
     
  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    its easy to say all that pony after the fight but watch the whole of round 13 and decide for yourself. I didn’t see conn come out storming for the KO - he boxed. I did however see billy shoot his bolt in spirited retaliation to Joe Louis hurting him. conn gamely fought his way out of a corner then ran out of steam. I think Billy just went along with THE "i went for the KO" line once people started saying he hurt Louis in round 12 and had a go in round 13 before he got caught but IMO its just not how it happened. He boxed brilliantly but was made to fight when he was cornered.
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, astonishingly enough I've seen it a few times.

    He did indeed come out boxing. You think he has to come out throwing overhand rights from his hips?

    It's ok if you want to say he wasn't going for the KO. But your opinion is meaningless to me, because it is based upon your bad read of the fight, and contradicts the testimony of the Conn corner, family, and the fighter himself. In other words,like a lot of your posts, it doesn't have much connection with reality.
     
  11. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Of course not. You can lure a fighter into opening up, there is more ways to skin a cat - but to me Conn looks a lot less like a fighter looking for a KO until he has his bell rung.

    getting rather spikey today arnt we?

    Like I say, it was a great fight and conn boxed well.
     
  12. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    NEVER,NEVER an amateur, Billy Conn was thrown to the wolves. Just think by the age ot TWENTY Billy faced a prime Fritzie Zivic,Babe Risko, Vince Dundee, Oscar Rankings, Teddy Yarosz, Young Corbett, powerful punching Solly Krieger,all whom he BEAT... By the age of 22, Conn licked the terrific prime Fred Apostoli twice, Eric Seelig, Melio Bettina 2 [I saw Bettina draw with Jimmy Bivins MSG], Gus Dorazio, Gus Lesnevich, then soon after the 165-70 pound Conn kod the elusive Bob Pastor, who kod the feared Lem Franklin, Al McCoy, Lee Savold[ in Savold's prime] ... Kod the tough Finn Gunnar Barlund [who kod Buddy Baer], and then Billy's great effort against the 30 pound heavier immortal Joe Louis.
    Truly there will never be a Billy Conn again. Hollywood looks ,combined with the guts of a burgler... Not for nothing was he called Pittsburgh's second greatest fighter ever. Of course we know who # 1 was...Cheers...
     
  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You make me spikey every day with your bull****.


    Here. Learn something.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWDsRsqCy8o[/ame]

    Or gather evidence and refute.
     
  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    ouch!!! she bites!



    already seen it. still dont think conn set out to to go for the knock out at the start of round 13. its not bull**** to say that since he dosnt look like a fighter going for the knock out at the start of that round, at least i am not trashing billy conn like you did the other day.
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol: ok