Billy Joe Saunders potenially to face GGG or Canelo in september

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  1. Mendoza

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    I'd pick the guy from Japan first to break the record for consecutivevr title defenses, then fight Billy Joe at the end of the year. Sanders is the best out there at this point in time.
     
  2. shadow111

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    Golden Boy President Eric Gomez said on Tuesday that the promoters were advised Alvarez would likely not be cleared to fight on May 5.

    The Nevada State Athletic Commission was considered "unlikely to approve the rematch". Canelo withdrawling didn't have anything to do with him not wanting to fight. He was temporarily suspended and essentially forced to do that.

    That's completely different than what Gennady and Team GGG are doing now. They are running away from a September rematch by making extreme demands.
     
  3. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your tripping
    GGG was ready to fight
    Canelo failed the test and withdraw
    Enough with GGG is ducking Canelo lol
    You really think GGG is scared of Canelo? After that first fight I’m sure he could gladly fight him 5 times and beat him 4/5
     
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  4. BCS8

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    OOoooooohh.

    Right.

    Because being banned for cheating with drugs is MUCH better than demanding a heinous 50-50 split!

    :lol:

    Keep walking, kid.
     
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  5. shadow111

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    You're living in the past buddy. I'm talking about what's happening in the here and now. Canelo withdrawling wasn't an example of him running away from the rematch. He was temporarily suspended and the NSAC kept pushing his hearing back.

    I don't think a 50/50 is heinous, but it's a far cry from the split that both sides had agreed to. GGG could have signed the rematch by now but he decided to make extreme demands that have stalled negotiations. That wasn't the only demand that GGG has made either.

    As a fan, I could care less what the split is, I just want to see the fight happen. As it stands, GGG has demanded a lot more money when even at 35% he'd be making a hell of a lot more $$ than he'd make vs anybody else. His demands are what has prevented the fight from being agreed upon.

    And Canelo was not banned for "cheating" with drugs. He was suspended simply for testing positive for a banned substance. That's a big difference, and his test results were only trace amounts and were consistent with contaminated meat, while living in a country that has a well known clenbuterol contaminated meat problem.
     
  6. shadow111

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    Funny, Canelo impressed in the first fight, Gennady disapointed. Canelo landed the better punches, more body shots, outboxing him and outclassing him round after round.

    You're living in la la land if you think that Gennady's performance in the first fight suggests he'd beat Canelo 4 out of 5 times if they fought that many times lmao. Canelo lit Gennady up like a Christmas tree, and Gennady was saved by two judges who gave him rounds for coming forward, being aggressive and throwing more punches. Canelo was picking most of his shots off and landed the better punches rounds after round. Gennady was given rounds for effort that got him a draw. Canelo had the better performance and was the far more impressive fighter.
     
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  7. N17

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    I agree.


    But I would have put "wanking HIMSELF off".. Otherwise it leaves it open to all sorts of accusations and interpretations.

    :risas3:
     
  8. GK BOX

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    You just gave me your opinion of the fight. I addressed your ridiculous position that GGG is ducking his retirement package fight.
     
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  9. IsaL

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    Update: Canelo signed up for VADA's 360 program a few weeks ago, and then GGG decided to take his example and also sign up for the same program.
     
  10. Angler Andrew

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    Lol you’re tripping,granted Golovkin was disappointing but when pro Canelo HBO have GGG winning then you know Canelo got beat,what was Leddermans scorecard?even wider,Paulie M had it 9-3 to GGG albeit I think that’s harsh on Canelo but just shows the general consensus at the time was that Golovkin was robbed.
    I’ve thought about this and I did fancy Canelo in the rematch but have since wondered how Canelo stops himself gassing and how Golovkin could be any worse and the answer is he can’t be any worse than that,Canelo had his chance and blew it to the point where even the judges couldn’t give him a win.
    50/50 is asking for too much but if those demands are about fair unbiased judging and possible venue then that’s fair enough,all any boxing fan wants is to see the correct result which you sir couldn’t give a damn about cause you don’t like boxing it’s Canelo and Oscar you like.
     
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  11. Angler Andrew

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    Is that after his example of using Clenbuterol,what a great role model to others Canelo is.
    Lol Isal you’re funny without even knowing it.
     
  12. vargasfan1985

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    Clen isn’t fighting any top dogs at 160, you gullible clowns.
     
  13. BCS8

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    In other words, Golovkin would already have beaten him by now and moved onto better things if it wasn't because of Canelo. So much for being "scared".

    They would already have had the fight at the split Canelo wanted ... but, oh, yeah, turns out he was juiced and withdrew because of it. Canelo has already cost GGG 2 fights, and if Golovkin goes through with the fight he's likely going to have to pay a hefty step aside fee to Derevyanchenko ... because of Canelo. Sounds like he's tired of the bull**** and diva demands from Clenelo.

    Canelo being juiced is what prevented the fight from happening already. Alvarez would have had his percentages if he hadn't blown it.

    Yes, especially if you marinade the steak in clenbuterol baste overnight.
     
  14. IsaL

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    Just like I've given many fighters the benefit of the doubt, of course I will give Canelo the benefit of the doubt.

    If there has been any fighter who ever deserved the benefit of the doubt its Canelo who has passed all his tests prior, and post those two tests. He also took a HFT and passed with flying colors and Canelo also took the initiative and enrolled in VADA's 360 program a much more stringent program than the WBCs CBP. That is more than any fighter whi has tested positive or has been suspected of juicing has ever done.

    I think taking the HFT and enrolling in VADAs 360 program is a great example for many boxers.

    It seems Canelo has done everything he can to clear his name, and at the very least has done more to prove he is clean than any fighter.

    You can choose to belive what you want including that he is a juicer, I will respect your opinion if you use the same measuring stick for any fighter who has tested positive for a banned substance, but if you're not consistent and are using your bias to judge Canelo then you hurt your credibility.
     
  15. Angler Andrew

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    Fair enough Isal I respect your opinion but just bear in mind drug tests can be beaten with the right people on board and that applies to Golovkin as well as Canelo.
    Lance Armstrong showed that Drug tests ain’t worth that much as he was dosed up to the eyeballs and never tested positive though I fail to believe that,more likely they had guys paid on the inside as usually happens.