Billy Joe Saunders steps aside to let Lee fight Quillin, smart move?

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  1. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    That's what the whole reality of the issue is, but Quillin's bull he spouted to deny the obvious was as hilarious as it was cringeworthy.
    Weird Al just veto'd the fight once his bitter rival Jay-Z won the pursebid. And Quillin knowing he got screwed over by the deal he signed with Al, tried to save face coming up with the most ridiculous excuses, wich made a bad and sad situation even worse.
     
  2. lencoreastside

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    If Quillin beats Lee, BJS could well have to take on Quillin in the USA...that's a big ask for BJS.
     
  3. Stevie 79

    Stevie 79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As i says what if he fights european mandatory , takes a lucky shot and gets sparkod , he fcuks up his position , when youve earned a world shot to take step aside money twice screams out pu55y to me
     
  4. Leoh

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    If he's to lose to a random journeyman due to a "lucky shot", it will only show he wasn't worthy of a belt fight anyway. Don't get stuck on "what if's". He's still very young and still needs to prove himself against "journeyman with lucky shots".
     
  5. gmurphy

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    not when your still very young and getting 6 figure step aside money

    if he does get sparked out it just proves he wasn't ready, and i think BJS needs another fight to work on his stamina

    and if Quillin wins Wazza can bleed Haymon dry during negotiations because Haymon will not want purse bids. Or Wazza can just make it go to purse bids, make Quillin vacate, then the fight will have to be in england against some guy no where near as good as quillin, its genius
     
  6. lencoreastside

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    It's the old story about the "bird in the hand" though.
    I feel it is the wrong option for BJS to put himself at risk of having to face Quillin in the USA.
     
  7. nick1204

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    Apparently he got a six figure sum to step aside. Why wouldn't he? He gets the winner anyway. A big pay day to have one keep busy fight until he fights for the title. Pretty good move in my book
     
  8. lencoreastside

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    Ok but which one will be "the winner".
    There is a world of difference between facing good ol Unconnected Andy Lee in friendly old UK/Eire ....OR ......facing the heavily connected Quillin in the USA.

    Especially, if, like BJS, you rely totally on winning on points.

    Surely you can see that.
     
  9. nick1204

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    He's not gonna think like that unless he has no self belief. In his head he'll think he can go to America and win. Plus the fight would be bigger whoever wins. Another big win for lee and facing unbeaten American in his back yard. Pros and cons but I still think overall it was a good decision.
     
  10. lencoreastside

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    Replace the words "self belief" with " common sense".
    Then what you say would be about right.

    Look how in his head he thought he would win so easily against against CEj....and very nearly didn't win at all.

    This is a FAR riskier proposition. Unless Joe is a complete airhead altogether surely he can see that?
     
  11. Furey

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    Exactly how I read it.

    He's a good fighter but isn't at "that" level just yet - let them two fight each other while in the mean time get in another fight that'll see him do another camp + be tested resulting in him coming on further as a fighter + further raising his profile.

    A few ££££ for doing **** all is also nice, especially when the game's as tough as it is.

    As has been said though, it could come back to bite him on the **** if Quillin wins... BJS is hardly a KO artist and he'd be likely facing Quillin in his and Al Haymon's back yard !!
     
  12. nick1204

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    I do get what you're saying but he's gonna think he can win. Whether or not he'd bd right to thinking. Plus he's fighting in New York getting exposure in America. Letting this title fight build. I suppose there two ways to look at it. I think we are both right in certain ways.
     
  13. lencoreastside

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    I disagree. Think you are either overestimating Quillin and in particular Lee, or underestimating the level of guys BJS has defeated. In the past two years BJS has defeated CEJ, ryder, spike and blackwell....any of whom I would give a great chance of beating either Lee or Quillin.

    Putting a guy in a position where he has to risk facing Quillin in the States is poor management IMO. Not that billy Joe isn't better than Quillin or anything...it's just that BJS couldn't crack an egg and he relies on winning on points. He is unlikely to get a decision against Quillin in the USA.
     
  14. Furey

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    BJS is capable of beating both Lee & Quillin, I'm not doubting that... but it's whether once he becomes one of the "top dogs" and holds a title, can he beat 'all comers' as everyone's going to be gunning for him?

    At this point in time, I'm not confident he can - not to say he can't. Biding his time, gaining more experience, improving as a fighter and being paid to step a side - for the time being, I think that's his best move.
     
  15. Ade_Lad

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    BJS is in a good posistion. I would like him to fight Hassan N’Dam for the IBF on the undercard if Felix Sturm doesn't take the fight.