Bitterest end of relationship s between fighter and trainer

Easy peasy: Kelly Pavlik fired his trainer after the loss to Hopkins. And with good reason. He had no good reason to fight the bigger, more skilled legend. It was a career-shattering moment, and they kept talking trash about each other long after the split.

 

Just watched an interview the other day with billy graham and kerry kayes. Great british trainer graham reckons hes a loss to the game. Pretty sure his hands we,re giving up on him for the padwork with hatton. Was a real hard decision. Felt like they should have employed someone to do the pads for hatton.

Your right tho. Pretty much outside influences was the bigger reason. Said he was sorry he never banned people from the gym. Ray hatton and richard poxon i think he mentioned. Think kerry kayes talked him out of walking away even well before the mayweather fight. When it started getting big time. Same old story all the leeches come calling trying to redirect the star player. Think it worked in the end.

Billy should have still got someone in to do the pads tho. Think his hands we,re starting to fail him was slowing up. No fault of his own tbh. But at that level hatton needed someone that could keep up with him.

 

I can't remember how it ended, did Graham walk or did Hatton have enough ? Yeah get someone in to do the pads

 

Freddie Brown never got over it. Never worked in Boxing again. As you say, probably the saddest.

 

Ricky dropped it on Graham. It's in his book. He felt bad but couldn't cut corners in training.

 

Who? Mike Jones!

 

Couldn't cut corners in training while turning up in dreadful shape for camp lol

 

Anyone and Booth. Adam Booth is a fabulous trainer and is expensive. Fighters get to a point when they forget Booth got them there and don't want to pay.
Groves is the outstanding example of this. He simply wasn't half the Fighter.

 

I know yeah. As weird as it sounds, Hatton was a fantastic trainer. He just didn't live the life. John Conteh was similar. Once training started it was all business.

 

Atlas and Shannon Briggs
Atlas (spit bucket holder) and Tyson
Atlas and Povetkin
Atlas and Moorer
Atlas and Lalonde

 

One from a bygone age and really a Manager rather than a Trainer. Johnny Prescott was from an orphanage, complicated story in that his Mum was alive and married and had a daughter after Johnny was given away.
He turned pro young and his Manager, George Biddles, was as close to a Dad as Johnny had ever known. After his two fights with Billy Walker, John was in the big league, driving a brand new E-Type, owning a club and a bookies and all set.
Walker v Prescott was the hottest ticket in British Boxing, like the Stones v the Beatles and at one each Harry Levene was prepared to break the bank for the decider. £10,000 each. The biggest non title purse in British Boxing history at the time.
George didn't tell Prescott but had accepted. In the meantime, he accepted a fight with Joe Erskine for £3,000.
So what happens ? Erskine rolls back the years and give Prescott a Boxing lesson and wins on points by a mile and the big payday with Walker is off. Johnny finds out and, furious, sacks Biddles.
Fast forward eighteen months and Prescott is up against Jack Bodell with Jack's new Manager, George Biddles in his corner. Rough, tough Jack knocks lumps off Johnny and wins on points. Throughout the fight, George Biddles is crying.
Long story and I apologise for that but that's the saddest one I know. Biddles loved Johnny Prescott. What's sadder is that the rift was never healed. Tough, the old fight game.

 

Think hatton called time. Billy thinking about walking away was before they even got to america....said he couldnt stand the people that got involved as the brand got bigger. Ray hatton and richard poxon we,re the two he named. Pretty sure it ended up in court with billy owed money from the mayweather fight. Settled out of court but pretty sure it was ray hatton that tried to short change billy without ricky knowing too much about it. Reading between the lines other people created a divide....that plus billys hands we,re shot.

Same old story really. He should have stuck with billy and forced him to get a younger sharper guy in to take over the padwork etc. Difficult tho...cause at that level...after mayweather you probably needed another guy in to give him something a bit different. Doesnt tend to work out having 2 head coaches or something like that.

 

Agreed mate. For a short spell, and with Graham, I thought he was a an extremely hard lad to beat @ 140.. He just seemed to become more vulnerable pretty quickly trying to make 140

 

He worked for a family friend of mine after Boxing, the accounts department lol..Basically a heavy if money was owed

 

Ray Hatton was a slippery ****er, quite smarmy. I bet the wife would crack him if he got out of line lol