Bivol and Beterbiev run the All Time LHW Gauntlet

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    How would Bivol and Beterbiev do in 12 round fights against the following:

    Level 1: Anton Christoforidis
    Level 2: Gus Lesnevich
    Level 3: Georges Carpentier
    Level 4: Jimmy Bivins
    Level 5: Tommy Loughran
    Level 6: Billy Conn
    Level 7: Gene Tunney
    Level 8: Michael Spinks
    Level 9: Archie Moore
    Level 10: Ezzard Charles

    Where do they stop? Do they even stop?
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Neither are proven enough to be matched with the best of the division from yesteryear.
     
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  3. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah but Is there anybody out there that they can beat to be considered proven? You just gotten take them as they are now. Everybody now knows how they fight an what they can do
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Each other.
     
  5. James Page

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    They destroy them all, save may be Spinks and Charles
     
  6. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Too many unknown variables to answer in a time machine H2H sense. E.g. - Timescales of the weigh in, same say or day before (more significant for AB than DB)? Glove type, fight/round length, ref, rules, PEDs, impact of legal sports science/supplements/etc?

    With regards to how great they proved themselves to be relative to their own eras, if they get as far as Bivins at level 4, he s%*ts all over both of them.
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

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    Ridiculous.

    There's no way Bivol or Beterviev 'destroy' Billy Conn or Archie Moore.
     
  8. George Crowcroft

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    They'd both quite easily make it to Bivins, and then things get tough. Both could beat Bivins; although they could both absolutely lose to him. If given the benefit of the doubt against Bivins, they both, IMO, are clear underdogs against Tommy Loughran.

    I expect it to stay that way, with Beterviev's age.
     
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  9. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    they lose to all of them
     
  10. Unnecessarily Hostile

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    Heh. Bingooooo.
     
  11. James Page

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    I forgot to include Moore, he beats either of them.

    Conn gets anihalated
     
  12. Melankomas

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    How come?
     
  13. JackSilver

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    But if they both unproven like you said how will either of them be proven if all they are doing is beating another unproven fighter?
     
  14. James Page

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    Against Bivol it would be a good back and forth, but Beterbiev would be too high volume for him, mixed with his brutal power Conn would crumble.

    Beterbiev doesn't hit as hard as Louis, but he doesn't have to, his power is good enough and his volume and work rate are much higher
     
  15. JackSilver

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    Beterbiev might or could